[time-nuts] HP 10811 EFC

2010-10-29 Thread EWKehren
I have in the past reversed the varactor, grounding R2 to get a positive tuning voltage from 1.5 to 12 Volt. Also brought out the 5.7 volt for reference purposes. That way every thing was positive. Is easy to get to. But now I have some very good units and I am worried I may change

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 EFC

2010-10-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you are going to tear into the unit, lift the 100K (R2) that goes to the 6.4 V reference and bring that out. Ground the existing EFC lead and feed the new one with a (low) positive voltage. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium 2nd Harmonic Readings

2010-10-29 Thread paul swed
John, Interested. How might you connect the oven controller to what he is seeing? Bad caps causing it to oscillate, 60 hz modulation, .. I have a 5065 so am always interested in tid bits that I read. Thanks On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:34 AM, John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: How's the photo

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 EFC

2010-10-29 Thread EWKehren
Bob Thanks that is even better. I did not think of that. I can do that by swapping the leads at the board interface and stay away from the Osc. circuit itself. Will try that when I replace the OCXO of my FRK-H with a super 10811. Bert Kehren In a message dated 10/29/2010 8:37:13 A.M.

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-29 Thread jimlux
Hal Murray wrote: How about the crab supernova. Msec pulsars are much more stable - see http://arxiv.org/pdf/0911.5534 for some comparisons. You get frequency from pulsars. I think you need something like a (super)nova to establish a start-time so you can convert frequency to time

[time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Brandon Jordan
I am working on a project to lock at RFSpace SDR-IQ receiver to a Trimble Tbolt, using a G4HUP DFS to convert the 10 mHz reference output to the 66.667 mHz required by the SDR-IQ. I am looking at the various Tbolt kits on eBay (the ones that include power supply, antenna, etc). Can anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Paul Nicholson
In July I bought this kit from a reliable supplier in China, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290322053618 It arrived in 6 days and I had it up and running within an hour, and it's been doing a solid job since. -- Paul Nicholson --

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 962ba941c5ca41c19df45f77608ad...@warcon28gz, WarrenS writes: What is the correct 100 sec Allan value of this low noise 10811 Osc? All plots are of the same OSC, just different parts of the same data run. Basically the worst one... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi there, how can the nominal frequency be 1E+11 Hertz (in other words 0.1 TeraHertz)?? For the 10811A it should be set to 1E+7. Also, what instrument are you using that gives you xE-13 resolution on 33ms sample rate (30 samples per second at 0.5 parts per trillion resolution)? bye,

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread John Miles
Well, it depends on the conditions -- you'd have to hold the temperature steady to conclude that, not to mention the reference (which was...?) All of the runs represent good performance for a 10811. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread mike cook
looks like this might run... I would say that all the values are valid , but agree that the overall confidence in the performance couldn't be better than the worst case. I have noticed that I never get the same ADEV values on successive runs but put it down to an undisciplined thermal

[time-nuts] Most precise clock ever created - here we go again

2010-10-29 Thread JULIAN TOPOLSKI
Researchers at Fermilab are building a “holometer” so they can disprove everything you thought you knew about the universe. More specifically, they are trying to either prove or disprove the somewhat mind-bending notion that the third dimension doesn’t exist at all, and that the 3-D universe

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/29/2010 08:28 PM, WarrenS wrote: If it is time to come back from all the Dead subjects, I have a time nut question. What is the correct 100 sec Allan value of this low noise 10811 Osc? All plots are of the same OSC, just different parts of the same data run. None of them is correct, but

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Roy Conners
Hi Brandon Jordon: I have spent much time researching GPSDO's, for my requirements, I came up with the Tbolt, Many conditions to think about, firmware, who your buying from ect, the company I chose was Fluke1, this product The easy kit, Ant, Cable Fittings, a Tbolt that has been rehabbed, power

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread ws at Yahoo
It is easer for me to scale the nom freq setting than the data so I scaled the 1E+7 osc freq by 1e+4, because my raw data is in parts per 1e-11 instead of in Hz. Gives the same answer either way. I'm using an improved TPLL to take the raw data, Ulrich's great Plotter program to do the plots.

Re: [time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/29/2010 09:57 PM, mike cook wrote: looks like this might run... I would say that all the values are valid , but agree that the overall confidence in the performance couldn't be better than the worst case. Which trace is worst? Check the plot again. Look at the green trace. At 0,1 - 20

[time-nuts] What is the correct Allan value?

2010-10-29 Thread Mark Sims
All of those ADEV curves are awful...  send me the oscillator,  and I will dispose of it properly ;-) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Roy Conners
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Roy Conners Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:17 PM To: bcdx@gmail.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Roy Conners
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Roy Conners Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 5:36 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Robert Darlington
Sorry for the intrusion. I just want to point out that the seller is fluke.l, that's a lower case L, not a one. -Bob On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Roy Conners k3...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Brandon Jordon: I have spent much time researching GPSDO's, for my requirements, I came up with the

Re: [time-nuts] Most precise clock ever created - here we go again

2010-10-29 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, I've always thought that the reason that there are quantum dimensions, like the Planck time, is because we are living in a very high-class computer simulation. There has to be granularity at some level. Happy Halloween Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium 2nd Harmonic Readings

2010-10-29 Thread John Miles
There are a couple of 20 uF axial tantalum electrolytics across the B-C junctions of the pass transistors for both the lamp and cell heaters. They were open in my 5065A when I got it, and there was some overheating damage on the lamp driver PCB. Correlation != causation, but since I'm not sure

[time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium 2nd Harmonic Readings

2010-10-29 Thread Mark Sims
On my 5065A,  the 2nd harmonic reading jitters between 35 and 40.  Not sure if this is normal or not,  but the output seems very stable.  The std deviation of the output time interval on a 5370A clocked by a tbolt is at the limit of the counter when it is clocking itself.  

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread William H. Fite
I recently ordered a Thunderbolt from *yixunhk* on ebay. It arrived from Hong Kong is 4 (count them 1-2-3-4) days. His kit includes the tbolt, a brick power supply (no li'l wires coming from a tin box), software, serial cable, decent high gain antenna and about 20m of coax. Everything but the

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium 2nd Harmonic Readings

2010-10-29 Thread Brian Kirby
The 2nd Harmonic is the only one showing variation Battery 0 Supply 38 Lamp Oven 25 Cell Oven 23 Osc Oven36 Photo I 31 5 Mhz 18 (loaded) Control 0.5 Error 0 2nd Harm31 1 Mhz 38 (no load) 100 khz 38

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt kits on eBay

2010-10-29 Thread Roy Conners
Sorry about that, yes that was a typo, Have Fun, Roy K3TEN, 73 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of William H. Fite Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 6:36 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

[time-nuts] Tbolt characterization

2010-10-29 Thread EWKehren
Has any one characterized the 1 pps output over time against a Maser? I think it makes an excellent GPS substitute, but actual data would be great. Thanks Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Most precise clock ever created - here we go again

2010-10-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Bill Hawkins wrote: Well, I've always thought that the reason that there are quantum dimensions, like the Planck time, is because we are living in a very high-class computer simulation. There has to be granularity at some level. Only if you are looking at something. If you aren't looking, the

Re: [time-nuts] Most precise clock ever created - here we go again

2010-10-29 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
I would call this gadget more of a time interval analyzer than a clock. Rick Karlquist N6RK On 10/29/2010 1:01 PM, JULIAN TOPOLSKI wrote: Researchers at Fermilab are building a “holometer” so they can disprove everything you thought you knew about the universe. More specifically, they are