Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna splitters

2011-02-05 Thread dave powis
You could also look at http://g4hup.com/DA/DA.htm - specifically the G version, which is intended for just this application, feeding up to 4 receivers. I use one myself for a Z3801A, two thunderbolts and a Jupiter based G3RUH type GPDSO. Output level is individually settable if required, and

Re: [time-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 06:05, J. Forster wrote: Hal, This is not the first time this has happened. Apparently, when you sign up for FB there is some non-obvious (purposely misleading, IMO) opt-out step that prevents FB access to your Address Book. The default is full access. The spam message will be

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 04:33, jimlux wrote: On 2/4/11 1:18 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 02/02/11 19:47, Hal Murray wrote: Bottom line - there's a lot to look into, and they are unlikely to help you out. There are a lot of FPGAs used in DSP applications where the clock to the front end ADC is

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-05 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 3:04 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 05/02/11 04:33, jimlux wrote: On 2/4/11 1:18 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 02/02/11 19:47, Hal Murray wrote: Bottom line - there's a lot to look into, and they are unlikely to help you out. There are a lot of FPGAs used in DSP applications

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 12:13, jimlux wrote: And where in-situ changes in the signal processing are needed (e.g. in a software defined radio), the reprogrammable FPGA is a good fit. But there is a tradeoff.. you might want to give the downstream users/programmers the ability to change sample rates,

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-05 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 3:54 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 05/02/11 12:13, jimlux wrote: And where in-situ changes in the signal processing are needed (e.g. in a software defined radio), the reprogrammable FPGA is a good fit. But there is a tradeoff.. you might want to give the downstream users/programmers

[time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Giuseppe Marullo
Hi all, I am unable to understand how to get this field from a RMC sentence, on the GPS I am using (LS20031) the field is empy so I am wondering if this is just a problem of implementation or what. AFAIK, the data is highly variable (location and time) so how is the GPS module able to

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 15:20, jimlux wrote: I agree, but if you want the clock rate to be changeable/selectable, driven arbitrarily by logic in the FPGA, you're kind of stuck. There is always corner-cases. I quite intently left room for that as well. The general recommendation is still to avoid it

[time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread jimlux
Here's an interesting problem.. I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator, nor do I have a convenient test point that I can probe. I can divide it down by an arbitrary number to

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4d4d6bf6.8070...@earthlink.net, jimlux writes: First, this isn't that different from the analysis used in the NTP protocol, so you should read that with an open mind. Or, given that the interval between ticks is one of 28 or 29 discrete values If you can reliably bin your

Re: [time-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-05 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
John K1AE wrote: Once you install their small unobtrusive application Yeah, right. If there's anything worse than facebook's privacy practices, it's a service provider that requires you to download a small unobtrusive application Best regards, Charles

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 7:30 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message4d4d6bf6.8070...@earthlink.net, jimlux writes: First, this isn't that different from the analysis used in the NTP protocol, so you should read that with an open mind. That is what got me started thinking it was doable at all. (PTP 1588 as

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 16:25, jimlux wrote: Here's an interesting problem.. I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator, nor do I have a convenient test point that I can probe. I can divide it down

Re: [time-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-05 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 8:05 AM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: John K1AE wrote: Once you install their small unobtrusive application Yeah, right. If there's anything worse than facebook's privacy practices, it's a service provider that requires you to download a small unobtrusive application The

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread jimlux
On 2/5/11 8:11 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 05/02/11 16:25, jimlux wrote: Here's an interesting problem.. I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator, nor do I have a convenient test

Re: [time-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-05 Thread William H. Fite
Neque estis in ore equus dari. Septuaginta tres, Bill On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, jimlux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2/5/11 8:05 AM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: John K1AE wrote: Once you install their small unobtrusive application Yeah, right. If there's anything worse than

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-05 Thread J. Forster
Here is a contact in the Facebook abuse department: Kirill Popov kpopo...@fb.com -John === A good way to post photos etc is with Dropbox. You get 2 GB free. Once you install their small unobtrusive application, you can open the Dropbox (online) folder in Windows File

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/11 17:30, jimlux wrote: On 2/5/11 8:11 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: What you can do is you generate your tick clock at any division greater than 7*14 (if I understood the timing correctly). Say you divide your clock with 200 (about 3 us period if I got it right). Then you would get

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Albertson
The GPS receiver can only compute the direction to true north if the antenna is on a moving vehicle. The GPS looks backward to where you were in the last few seconds and computers the direction of travel. On a fixed antenna this can't work. But even at best the GPS' idea of north is poor. I had

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread David Martindale
Garmin receivers provide that data in their RMC sentence. They apparently calculate it automatically using a mathematical model of the earth's magnetic field, so its accuracy would depend on the accuracy of the model. The GPS system itself does not provide a way to measure variation. With the

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Alan Melia
Try this site as an alternative for local magnetic data http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/IGRFWMM.jsp?defaultModel=WMM Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread xaos
I wonder if there is any value to performing a FFT on the data. -GKH Quoting jimlux jim...@earthlink.net: Here's an interesting problem.. I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator,

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Giuseppe Marullo
Thanks to all for your answers. I am designing a low cost automagic satellite dish pointer. I was thinking that adding the magnetic compensation to the magnetic compass would be neat, but obviously I can't get it from the internet, still wondering how the GPS could provide a useful value if

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Hal Murray
but obviously I can't get it from the internet Are you sure? still wondering how the GPS could provide a useful value if the modeling is difficult, varying widely in time and space. If you ignore local quirks like big chunks of iron ore, the magnetic declination is a set of smoothly

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Giuseppe Marullo
Are you sure? I guess so, it is a motorhome traveling South and Central Europe without Internet connectivity. Really how could Garmin and others provide such data? Do they allow the user to upload the maps? Never heard about it, but I may be wrong. Giuseppe Marullo

[time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-05 Thread Gordon Batey
Greetings TimeNuts Does anyone know where I can find a manual for a HP 654A Distortion Analyzer. Thanks for any help. Gordon WA4FJC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-05 Thread J. Forster
Try the following: Agilent site BAMA ArtekMedia.com -John Greetings TimeNuts Does anyone know where I can find a manual for a HP 654A Distortion Analyzer. Thanks for any help. Gordon WA4FJC ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Mike S
At 12:47 PM 2/5/2011, Chris Albertson wrote... But magnetic variation can be can be gotten from a map... Compensation would always need to be entered by hand. Compensation? Please don't tell me they've changed things, and a great mnemonic is no more. I learned it as

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Cezary Rozluski
At 00:31 06-02-11, you wrote: At 12:47 PM 2/5/2011, Chris Albertson wrote... But magnetic variation can be can be gotten from a map.. e.g. http://www.intermagnet.org/apps/plt/dataplot_e.php?plot_type=dif_plot ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual

2011-02-05 Thread Dave M
From: Gordon Batey gpba...@wildblue.net Subject: [time-nuts] HP 654A Manual Greetings TimeNuts Does anyone know where I can find a manual for a HP 654A Distortion Analyzer. Thanks for any help. Gordon WA4FJC Gordon, The HP 654A is a test oscillator (signal generator); not a distortion

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier suggestions

2011-02-05 Thread Tijd Dingen
That CVHD-950-100 looks to be just the ticket. Nice price/performance. Thank you for the recommendation! :) I just looked at the data sheet. It says: Frequency Pulling: ±20ppm APR Min. I was going to ask what APR meant. In case anybody else is also curious... The CVS575-500 data

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting problem

2011-02-05 Thread Hal Murray
I've got a system at work with an internal clock oscillator that I want to get some statistics on, but there's no direct visibility for the oscillator, nor do I have a convenient test point that I can probe. ... Fun problem. Thanks for tossing it out. I see two approaches. Are there

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency multiplication

2011-02-05 Thread Tijd Dingen
You don't feed the ADC from the FPGA if you can avoid it. especially if your ADC clock is a different frequency from the processor clock that's being used for most of the other logic on the FPGA. I'd give a ballpark estimate of 20-30 dB isolation between the two on a Virtex 2. I read

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier suggestions

2011-02-05 Thread Hal Murray
Possibly you mean the CVS575 datasheet does not have any aging specs The datasheet for the CVHD-950 specifies aging as 3ppm 1st/yr, 1ppm thereafter which is good enough for me. So it's now on the shopping list. No, what I meant was that the data sheets didn't have any total lifetime