Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A temp

2011-02-11 Thread gonzo .
Hi Rick, if you happen to be state-side, I imagine 120V fans are pretty common. However, if you live somewhere where they 'don't do things by halves', low voltage AC fans are hard to come by! Any bling PC shop can supply a range of quiet DC fans, so it comes down to practicalities. Brushless

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 79, Issue 31

2011-02-11 Thread Mike S
At 11:37 PM 2/10/2011, Rick Karlquist wrote... It isn't clear why you need to change to 12V fans. Why not modern 120V fans? The PC market has driven the creation of quiet, low cost, 12V, 80mm fans. You can get a ball-bearing Pabst 8506N, which is comparable to the original fan, 35 dba

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread paul swed
This is ideed something to do with internal external reference. The switch is in the wrong position or someone took the oven oscilator out and sold it on epay for $150. Simply switch to external and supply a 10 mc sig 1 volt. If it works find out whats missing. I would not use wd40 nor pull chips

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 79, Issue 31

2011-02-11 Thread paul swed
With humor it was loud Like the alternates On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: At 11:37 PM 2/10/2011, Rick Karlquist wrote... It isn't clear why you need to change to 12V fans. Why not modern 120V fans? The PC market has driven the creation of quiet, low

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Pete Lancashire
nope the osc is there and the switch is correct. The strangest part other then all the dead critters the spiders had for lunch and then they finally died. is the cover screws. all that is pretty much left are craters where the pozi-drive X use to be. Nothing seems to be abused on the inside at

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread paul swed
There was also a little board near the oven that could be missing. Its the buffer switch bd. But bottom line get a scope and find out why the reference is getting to something. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.comwrote: nope the osc is there and the switch is

Re: [time-nuts] TBOLT Power Supply

2011-02-11 Thread John Green
I use an International Power IHBCC512 which is overkill but I had it handy. I also use a cheap switcher on another one that serves as a reference for a ham repeater. Based on my somewhat limited experience, they are a long way from a Z3801. They are much cheaper though.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-11 Thread Dave M
From: Tim Tuck t...@skybase.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply Hi Larry, I use a linear supply for mine. My supply is actually a headphone amp supply kit from JayCar Electronics here in Australia. Its basically two LM317's and a 7805 for 5v. I changed the resistor that set the

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-11 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello The Net: Consider the HP-6235A triple power supply for a single T'Bolt. Consider a HP-6236B triple power supply. 0-6V to 2.5A 0 to +/-20V at 0.5A Can drive 2 each T'Bolts, but not optimally at a cold start. After the high cold start current draw, the +12V draw goes down nicely and then

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Don Latham
Paul is right! NO WD40, wrong stuff!! The chips can be reseated by GENTLY twisting the baords and pushing the chips back into the sockets (I know, but it works. note gently!), or just firmly pushing on the chips first on one end and then the other. I've also observes chips with one pin buckled

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Don, Perhaps I needed to be clearer on the WD-40. I use one of the pen dispensers with a fibre tip. Alternatively a slightly moistened lint free cloth. NOT an aerosol. You do not want it everywhere, just the poard fingers. I don't apply it to the sockets at all. If all you have is the

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread William H. Fite
CRC or DeoxIT, if you must, but not WD-40. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Paul is right! NO WD40, wrong stuff!! The chips can be reseated by GENTLY twisting the baords and pushing the chips back into the sockets (I know, but it works. note gently!),

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Don Latham
if it works, it works, I guess. I do like deoxit, but wd40 is definitely easier to come by. Yes, anything to move the chips around a little bit is ok. Shoulda known, most time nuts are pretty savvy. Don Robert Atkinson Hi Don, Perhaps I needed to be clearer on the WD-40. I use one of the pen

[time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-m-RB steered by Odetics GPStar

2011-02-11 Thread Guido Kueppers
Hello and greetings to the list, I'm a new member and would like to report on my efforts in controlling the rubidium oscillator in the Lucent RFTG-m-RB module. I've been sifting through the time-nuts archives but haven't found any success stories on this apart from the original setup consisting

Re: [time-nuts] Calculate spectral content from a series of zero crossing time stamps?

2011-02-11 Thread Tijd Dingen
- Original Message From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 10:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Calculate spectral content from a series of zero crossing time stamps? Wavecrest just fell of the Internet for some time and

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Collins, Graham
WD40 (according to the MSDS) is principally Stodard Solvent and light petroleum oil. Stodard solvent can be thought of as pretty much as and having similar properties to kerosene. The light petroleum oil can be thought of and having simliar properties to something like 3 in 1 oil. I can't

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread paul swed
Don I have seen the same amazing thing eproms with a pin folded over that touched the auget socket and worked for years or maybe not and thats why I ended up with the 5370. But bottom line is I grab 5370s when I see them if they are the right price. Have 4, all working now, most with the xtal

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Don Latham
Hi Paul: I have two 5370A's that I picked off epay years ago when prices were real. What's happened, I don't know, but I can't afford to buy stuff that old for inflated prices, and the shipping, yikes! I'm converting to all USB instruments for future use, including SDR's, that's why I tried to get

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread paul swed
Don I have indeed looked at the usb instruments. Pretty amazing for the costs actually. But I have been fortunate to get out of the epay drug before $ went crazy. (A better observation was I did not like the $ for the junk and risk) Also been lucky to stumble into reasonably priced broken gear. So

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message aanlktim2gecwojag9scc+q7q8bvxe8vapf38mu_r_...@mail.gmail.com, paul swed writes: Still with a handful of these USB sensors and instruments my bench would be 1000 LBS lighter and the power consumption 20 watts. Well... There is a nasty tendency to needed one laptop per instrument to

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Rex
On 2/11/2011 1:00 PM, paul swed wrote: Then soap and water with elbow grease and they look like new and work well. Regards Paul. I like automobile bug and tar remover for cleaning external panels on old equipment. It is a moderate solvent. I've never seen it damage paint but is strong

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Bob Bownes
Speaking of which, I have some instruments I'd like to usb enable. The instruments have analog output. Ideally I'd like to use a USB microcontroller and simply read back the analog value. Once I have the analog value I can handle it from there. If someone has some experience doing such, please

[time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-11 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
Now that working 5372s are being sold for $50 repairing one may sound a bad idea, but in my case shipping would be definitely prohibitive. I have a 5373 that fails in Histogram, Count ICs, Gate Timer and Meas Rom, point to possibly faulty chips in boards A3 and A5. As it seems to be a generalized

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message aanlktikh0vv-x7wt8w8ghejm159+ac--zzwdbx6jm...@mail.gmail.com, Bob Bownes writes: Speaking of which, I have some instruments I'd like to usb enable. The instruments have analog output. Ideally I'd like to use a USB microcontroller and simply read back the analog value. Once I have the

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 11/02/11 22:51, Geraldo Lino de Campos wrote: Now that working 5372s are being sold for $50 repairing one may sound a bad idea, but in my case shipping would be definitely prohibitive. I have a 5373 that fails in Histogram, Count ICs, Gate Timer and Meas Rom, point to possibly faulty chips

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Larry McDavid lmcda...@lmceng.com wrote: Greetings! I am a new member of the mail list. I've been using a HP Z3801A GPS-steered standard but have just acquired a Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Disciplined Clock. I'm seeking a recommendation for a power supply for

[time-nuts] Austron

2011-02-11 Thread EWKehren
Previously I asked about the Austron 1150 and got excellent information. How ever all data sheets I received show 28 Volt power requirement. My units have labels stating 12 to 28 Volt. Do these units have internal regulators or what should I look out for. Thanks Bert Kehren Miami

Re: [time-nuts] Austron

2011-02-11 Thread WB6BNQ
Bert, The data sheet I sent you has a number of possible factory voltage options indicated where the specs show the operating voltage. Is there some specific marking on the one you have ? If so, then I would start out on the low side and slowly raise the voltage and evaluate the

Re: [time-nuts] Austron

2011-02-11 Thread paul swed
Bert if I can help in anyway let me know. If as Bill says you have any pix or you want to send it to me I will figure it out and get it back to you. It would be my pleasure. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Previously I asked about the Austron 1150

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-11 Thread Neville Michie
One approach for the Tbolt is to use a low dropout low noise linear regulator (I used a LT1764 set to 11.5 volts) for the 12 volt input (it is within spec) and a 5V switcher (Recom R-785.0-1.0) for the 5v. For the minus 12v I used a ICL7662, these are rare, so a cmos gate oscillator and