Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-13 Thread Bruce Griffiths
ehydra wrote: I think the confusion is now perfect: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/207061#2059725 Let Google translate it from german to your language. Does the difference come from voltage vs. power spectrum? Yes, integrating the power spectrum of white noise produces flicker noise

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Paul, On 13/02/11 04:27, paul swed wrote: Well pretty good news The lamp voltage went from 1.83 volts a dead bulb to* 8.9 volts a new bulb*. By adjusting the oscillator I can get to 9.6 volts but I know the the oscillator will not start correctly at 82 Mhz its happy at 92 Mhz. This is good

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 13/02/11 07:11, ehydra wrote: I think the confusion is now perfect: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/207061#2059725 Let Google translate it from german to your language. Does the difference come from voltage vs. power spectrum? Yes. When you integrate you get a f^-1 slope in voltage

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-13 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Dear Bert and all, maybe I missed it, but how can a linear regulator filter out transients from a switched PSU? The cited LT1764A has less than 30dB Suppression at 100 kHz getting worse for higher frequencies.Even the famous 7805 had only 50 dB suppression. For going to a real clean PSU, I

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-13 Thread EWKehren
Achim of course I am using Filters, among others the wide band inductors Radio Conrad offers. Contact me direct and I will send you sketches of what I do, including GPSDO with 10811. Where are you located? Bert In a message dated 2/13/2011 8:44:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

[time-nuts] Laser ranging time-stamping equipment

2011-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi! While doing a random google-search for a HP5370B page (I was lazy), I crashed into a set of pages relating to laser ranging. I think it could be enlightening as it has a number of time-stamping equipments we usually do not discuss, but it also provides some comments on best use and

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom 10Mhz frequency standard from Fluke.l

2011-02-13 Thread EB4APL
David, I I told yesterday it was too late for writing an explanation. Here it is. I bought one of these units around last June, my intended use was to distribute the 10 MHz from my Rb oscillator to be used as the reference for various synthesizers and counters in my home lab. I didn't put

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread paul swed
Magnus it indeed does look very good. I have re-assembled the various boards and the system locked up as normal after the warm up period. I do indeed have a failure in the lamp control startup crkt. So I pulled the fet gate Q2 to ground through a 1 K ohm resistor setting the lamp to 24 volts.

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Paul, On 13/02/11 18:50, paul swed wrote: Magnus it indeed does look very good. I have re-assembled the various boards and the system locked up as normal after the warm up period. I do indeed have a failure in the lamp control startup crkt. My RS does not have a startup circuit, so I

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread paul swed
Startup circuit looks like a bad op amp used as a comparator. U1 section a. This is a LM 158. I have a LM 148 on hand suspect they are different in temperature quality. So will look it up and see. This is a common op amp so if the 148 does not work for some reason any numbers of more modern ones

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread Bruce Griffiths
paul swed wrote: Startup circuit looks like a bad op amp used as a comparator. U1 section a. This is a LM 158. I have a LM 148 on hand suspect they are different in temperature quality. So will look it up and see. This is a common op amp so if the 148 does not work for some reason any numbers of

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-13 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
Willem Programmer PRO GQ-4X Geraldo, Just curious which EPROM programmer you purchased? Joe -- Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
Thanks. Would love to hear how it works. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Geraldo Lino de Campos Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 1:03 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom 10Mhz frequency standard from Fluke.l

2011-02-13 Thread Dave M
Many thanks for the input, Ignacio. I sent an email to Fluke.l (Bob) asking for more details, but haven't received a response yet. I doubt that he will reveal much more info about it than what is in the Ebay description. Your info certainly goes a long way to answer my concerns. In view of

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread paul swed
Who would have thought a seriously leaky cap c7 on the input of U1a pin 3. Roughly 10K ohm. System is running at 1.6 x10^11. See if it hangs in there. Lamp is actually going higher in voltage at 8.2 V. All in all a good experiment. Regards Paul. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM, paul swed

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread paul swed
Thanks Bruce turned out to be C7 leaky. I actually used a LM358 dip with wires kind of a ugly bug. Then realzed that really was not the issue. It was c7. I do not have any lm158s can or dip. Pretty sure they would be hard to come by these days also. Something to look for at hamfests this year.

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread Hal Murray
I do not have any lm158s can or dip. Pretty sure they would be hard to come by these days also. Digikey has stock on everything but the ceramic DIP. They do have it in TO-99/TO-5. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread J.D. Bakker
At 17:50 -0500 13-02-2011, paul swed wrote: I do not have any lm158s can or dip. Pretty sure they would be hard to come by these days also. Should you need one, they are in stock @ Digi-Key, Newark/Farnell and several other distributors. JDB. [courtesy of http://findchips.com/ ] -- If you

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom 10Mhz frequency standard from Fluke.l

2011-02-13 Thread EB4APL
Hi, Since David asked about levels, I connected the unit and got these figures: Sine output: 2.8 VPP when loaded with 50 Ohm, internal capacitor coupled Square wave: 0 to +2.5 V loaded with 50 Ohm. There are other two internal SMA connectors with TTL levels: one is the inverted comparator

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-13 Thread shalimr9
The LM 158 and LM358 are the same part, just different screening levels and packaging. For commercial applications at normal temperatures, the LM358 is fine. Didier KO4BB Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com Sender:

[time-nuts] Why do crystals go bad?

2011-02-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
Group, Jim Garland on the boatanch...@theporch.com list asked about crystals: A 22.5MHz crystal (HC-5 case) in my homebrew receiver, built about forty years ago, no longer oscillates. It seems to be purely an age-related problem. It is in a standard solid state circuit which bandswitches six

Re: [time-nuts] Why do crystals go bad?

2011-02-13 Thread gary
Two authors come to mind regarding crystal oscillators: Eric Vittoz and Marvin Ferking. Eric Vittoz is the more modern of the two. His writings tend towards long term stability of crystal oscillators. Basically, most designs put too much energy into the crystal, which he claims wears it out.

Re: [time-nuts] Why do crystals go bad?

2011-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 14/02/11 04:26, Bill Hawkins wrote: Group, Jim Garland on the boatanch...@theporch.com list asked about crystals: A 22.5MHz crystal (HC-5 case) in my homebrew receiver, built about forty years ago, no longer oscillates. It seems to be purely an age-related problem. It is in a standard solid

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-13 Thread Flemming Larsen
I have a Power-One switching power supply that puts out +/- 15 Volts in addition to +5 Volts. I was planning to add a pair of 7812/7912 voltage regulators to provide the required +/- 12 Volts to the Thunderbolt. I would welcome any suggestions to improvements in this very basic design,