Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4fc2a5e9.7050...@partiallystapled.com, Michael Tharp writes: Does anyone have any comments or experience with DDS-based frequency references? I belive that is basically how the optional output generator works for hydrogen masers. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus

Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The frequency word is the same width as the accumulator, however the output of the accumulator is truncated. The phase completion and amplitude adjustments that the Taylor series correction method employs dont use the initail accumulator value although this has some effect (see heroic DDS

Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message4fc2a5e9.7050...@partiallystapled.com, Michael Tharp writes: Does anyone have any comments or experience with DDS-based frequency references? I belive that is basically how the optional output generator works for hydrogen masers. The

Re: [time-nuts] Something with GPS??

2012-05-28 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 05/27/2012 05:41 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Last evening my Thunderbolt was losing satellites until none were reported usable. At the same time the K5FX Thunderbolt was down to one or no usable birds. This afternoon I dug out my other thunderbolt, the first one I got. That

Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, in general i can second Bruce's comments on the topic. But since I constructed a DDS based GPSDO of my own and constructed two DDS based offset generators of my own I would like to add some comments that arise mainly from experience: 1) The absolute size of the phase and amplitude

Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The 9852 can be dithered from an external source. Of course, to be effective, you need a source that can calculate and transmit a multi megabit / second bit stream to do it. That gets you right back to the FPGA. The net result is not as good as a full blown FPGA approach, but it is indeed

Re: [time-nuts] NTP latency monitoring

2012-05-28 Thread Brendan Minish
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 13:07 +0930, Kim, VK5FJ wrote: Hi guys, About 40 minutes in ESR talks about bufferbloat and NTP skew issues; https://plus.google.com/118131797905622113230/posts/FBTdvYhR8qS Thanks for posting this. It kicked off quite a bit of tinkering here I also 'blue wire'

Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message d0519df5-e693-45ce-8a6f-c8cf35dde...@rtty.us, Bob Camp writes: The 9852 can be dithered from an external source. Of course, to be effective, you need a source that can calculate and transmit a multi megabit / second bit stream to do it. That gets you right back to the FPGA. There are

Re: [time-nuts] NTP latency monitoring

2012-05-28 Thread Hal Murray
ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com said: Anyone tinkered with measuring GPSd, NTPd and network delay tomography? No, but as the network admin for a reasonably large network, much of it wireless I'd like to explore this If you turn on rawstats in ntp.conf, it will collect the data for you. After

Re: [time-nuts] NTP latency monitoring

2012-05-28 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:07:41 +0930 Kim, VK5FJ vk...@hawtin.net.au wrote: Anyone tinkered with measuring GPSd, NTPd and network delay tomography? Actually, we had someone else asking questions how to build an ultra stable oscillator as a reference clock for network delay measurements a couple of

[time-nuts] hey

2012-05-28 Thread Robert Atkinson
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Re: [time-nuts] hey - warning

2012-05-28 Thread Said Jackson
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Re: [time-nuts] DDS in GPSDO design?

2012-05-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Not sure if you could do it with just a straight PRNG or not. The idea is normally approached as picking the codes you hop between so the errors (phase and amplitude null out. In practice that may not be any different than random since you don't really know what the D/A is doing. Bob On

Re: [time-nuts] hey - warning

2012-05-28 Thread J. Forster
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[time-nuts] FS: HP 5328A Universal Counter

2012-05-28 Thread Joseph Gray
Has Digital Voltmeter option and Universal Module option. No GPIB option. I was going to keep this for spare parts, but decided to clear out some stuff. The only testing I've done on it is to hook up my GPSDO to channel A. It reads 10,000.001 KHz from a cold start. Make me an offer. Joe Gray W5JG

[time-nuts] FS: Fluke 6060B Synthesized Signal Generator

2012-05-28 Thread Joseph Gray
I only post this on the list because I know some here would be interested. Covers 10 KHz to 1050 MHz, -127 to +13 dBm. Does AM and FM modulation of 400 Hz or 1000 Hz. Pics and specs here: http://www.testmart.com/sp.cfm/SIGSOU/FLU/6060B/1.html This unit works just fine, but the frequency and dB