Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 21 Nov, 2012, at 10:34 , Michael Tharp wrote: > With respect to interrupt latency, the PPS driver is the best you're going to > get without a custom add-in card that provides input capture (timestamping). > I considered going that route but making PCI or PCI-e cards essentially means > usin

Re: [time-nuts] An other project

2012-11-21 Thread Azelio Boriani
The XC2C64 has 64 cells and the XC9572 has 72. I recommend to choose something larger when buying evaluation boards: just in case you think to go beyond the PPS divider and think to put in also a time interval counter. Going from the PPS divider to the basic hardware that can make your GPSDO is a v

Re: [time-nuts] An other project

2012-11-21 Thread cfo
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:13:51 -0500, EWKehren-YDxpq3io04c wrote: > I did mention a MAX 3000 implementation of a 1 pps generator. The > attached picture shows the prototype. This came about to generate timing > signals to test the counters. It is a TADD-2 Mini on steroids. Besides > the Wenzel input

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread Ziggy
The -48V RTN should be the 'positive' side and the POWER -48V should be the 'negative' side. On normal installations the -48V is a black wire, the -48V return is a red wire. It's like having a 'positive ground'. (I've used, manufactured, sold, and installed 48V Telco gear.) On most Telco gear b

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Michael Tharp [] What you have is probably better than the typical RS-232 DCD line. Ultimately it's doing the same thing with mostly the same code -- triggering an interrupt when the line changes, and timestamping that in the kernel to keep the slippage between

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 11/21/2012 04:11 PM, Michael Tharp wrote: On 11/21/2012 06:58 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: It was a common mode error to both servers. It's worth nothing that even a high-ranked clock house like USNO can have these errors so trusting the one and true server can fail greatly. NTP by it's design

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Tharp
On 11/21/2012 06:24 AM, David J Taylor wrote: I only use gpsd on the Linux system, and then only because it was the first thing I discovered when searching with Google. As the precise timing is from the PPS signal fed to the GPIO pin, with a GPIO interrupt handler, I am forced to use that. I do

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Tharp
On 11/21/2012 06:58 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: It was a common mode error to both servers. It's worth nothing that even a high-ranked clock house like USNO can have these errors so trusting the one and true server can fail greatly. NTP by it's design has methods to handle these kind of errors gi

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread paul swed
Measure both pins and see if 1 is grounded. Telco is indeed -48V. So I would expect hopefully to see pin 8 at close to 0 ohms. If so then the plus of the 48 V would connect here and the label is explicit. But what I have run into is that nothing connects to ground and as such whats minus is a guess

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you have any concern about the wiring of the unit - open it up and check. There are an enormous number of conflicting wiring options for the small FE rubidiums. Bob On Nov 21, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Fabio Eboli wrote: > Hello, > I have a pair of FE-5682A coming, > not that I need them, but

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work detail Info please read

2012-11-21 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I found that I was past the network analyzers 120 db floor with two stages at 10 MHz. Actually the reactive termination thing is a bit of a "maybe yes / maybe no" sort of thing. It seems to help with some setups and not with others. What does work just about always is to terminate the mixer

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
Quoted message: 8<--- Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2012 09:38 To: na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: NTP Issues Today [] If your machines switched dates yesterday it probably means you're NTP infrastructure is insufficiently peered and diversified. --->8

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread Fabio Eboli
Thank you, Peter and Paul. Now I see that the pinout is almost identical to LPRO-101, the only difference are pins 8 and 10 for power supply. That's nice, I like the external C-Field control, and monitor voltage for lamp, they can be useful. I'm not familiar with telco power supplies, I know only

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread paul swed
I would agree that it sounds like you have a -48 telco unit. Thats pretty easy to do as some form of an option or alternate. But I have no proof. Regards Paul On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Peter Bell wrote: > I'm not familiar with that unit, but the pinout appears to match the > Efratom LPRO-

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread Peter Bell
I'm not familiar with that unit, but the pinout appears to match the Efratom LPRO-101 with the exception of the power supply. On the LPRO, pin 8 is the -ve side of the 24V supply and pin 10 is the +ve side. The "19V to 32V, 24V nominal" spec also matches the LPRO. It's possible that there is mor

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread Bill Dailey
Yep. You are right. May help only in the serial data... And irrelevant. Doc ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 11/21/2012 03:50 AM, Bob Smither wrote: Anyone notice this?: https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?n&storyid=14548 Seems a Navy NTP server claimed it was year 2000 for a while. Qouted message: 8<--- Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2012 09:38 To: na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: NTP Issues Today In a

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Bill Dailey Very nice write up. I went down a similar road with my fury and Ubuntu... And then with FreeBSD on a soekris box. Have you tried refclock drivers instead of gpsd? I use gpsd on Ubuntu but decided to use refclock route instead for FreeBSD. I hav

[time-nuts] FE-5682A coming, any info?

2012-11-21 Thread Fabio Eboli
Hello, I have a pair of FE-5682A coming, not that I need them, but I had flat shipping from the seller freakyflickers on ebay fro another item, I was asked 14USD each. I'm a bit confused by the pinout on the datasheet: http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/05)_GPS_Timing/FEI/FE-5682A_Datasheet_REVB.pdf T

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work detail Info please read

2012-11-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Have achieved around 120db with 3 cascaded 2N3904 CB amps. Something like a BFQ18 broadband transistor with its built in emitter ballasting may be a better choice. They work well in a pushpull CB Norton transformer feedback amp to boost the +7dBm output of an OCXO to +19dBm. Unfortunately Nort

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread Bill Dailey
Very nice write up. I went down a similar road with my fury and Ubuntu... And then with FreeBSD on a soekris box. Have you tried refclock drivers instead of gpsd? I use gpsd on Ubuntu but decided to use refclock route instead for FreeBSD. I have an overall feeling that at us and ns levels gp

Re: [time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
Yes, Two of my PC's asked if I wanted to change the data and time to -8xxx days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. A real head scratcher until I saw the link below. I believe the time server was tick.usno.navy.mil The Time Sync software that I use is D4 - see: http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/

Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox

2012-11-21 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: paul swed Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:34 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] eBay Ublox any luck on the ntp server? == If it's me you are asking, yes, Paul, here's th