Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-26 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, I know it's easy to make ADEV/MDEV plots using Plotter or Timelab but that doesn't mean it's appropriate in every case. When your data has an accidental data glitch or an intentional transient, it's best not to use statistics to describe that one event. Correct! I would like

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-26 Thread Fabio Eboli
Hello, hope you all had a happy Christmas. Back to the topic. Bob Camp asked: Hi One very simple question - how good would it do if you just did it all with logic gates? Tri-state buffers and things like that…. Now that you are up to a 100 to 200 ns long pulse, a lot of the fiddly stuff about

Re: [time-nuts] An embedded NTP server

2012-12-26 Thread Rob Kimberley
Michael, Which version of Meinberg's NTP build did you install? I've had problems with high jitter content on one of them. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Michael Tharp Sent: 25 December 2012 20:44 To:

Re: [time-nuts] An embedded NTP server

2012-12-26 Thread David J Taylor
From: Michael Tharp [] Oh, and your Windows box 172.24.0.68 is either poorly configured or broken - they can work much, much better than yours illustrates as I expect you know. Yes, it's not healthy. I installed Meinberg's NTP build and configured it using defaults other than the server list

[time-nuts] An embedded NTP server

2012-12-26 Thread M. Simon
You don't mention the quality of your VCXO. Do you have a part # or else specs i.e. ppm vs temp, time, voltage, etc. Nice pic btw. And that looks like an OSH Park gold plated board. I love their service. Simon === Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:18:30 -0500

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi You should check out the leakage of a typical tristate buffer. It's specified at a level that makes it easy to test. Most of the parts you find have very low leakage. Varicap diodes are similar in that respect, the leakage of real parts is much lower than the 1 ua you see on the old specs.

[time-nuts] OT: The End of Time

2012-12-26 Thread J. Forster
Over Christmas, I was chatting with a high accuracy clock researcher in the UK and he mentioned a trip to Brighton on the Winter Solstice and saw notices for this: Burning the Clocks Festival. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_the_Clocks LoL. -John

Re: [time-nuts] An embedded NTP server

2012-12-26 Thread Chris Albertson
The VXCO quality hardly matters for an NTP server. As long as it does not gain out loose more then 1 uSecond per second. In other words one part per million is fine for NTP. The goal is not to produce a 10MHz GDPDO. Clients using this server over the Ethernet are happy to keep time ti 1

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-26 Thread Mark Spencer
Tom, Magnus, Ulrich: Thanks for the comments and suggestions.  They are appreciated and I now have an even better understanding of why ADEV measurements are not a good tool for characterizing the performance of oscillators that are subject to transient events or glitches.    Just to clarify

[time-nuts] GPS Clock with Four Letter Words

2012-12-26 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: Here's one of my GPS controlled clocks that also displays random four letter words. http://www.prc68.com/I/timefreq.shtml#FLW When people visit it's almost hypnotic. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Fabio Eboli wrote: Hello, hope you all had a happy Christmas. Back to the topic. Bob Camp asked: Hi One very simple question - how good would it do if you just did it all with logic gates? Tri-state buffers and things like that…. Now that you are up to a 100 to 200 ns long pulse, a lot of the

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
Mark, On 12/26/2012 06:24 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: Tom, Magnus, Ulrich: Thanks for the comments and suggestions. They are appreciated and I now have an even better understanding of why ADEV measurements are not a good tool for characterizing the performance of oscillators that are subject to

Re: [time-nuts] An embedded NTP server

2012-12-26 Thread Michael Tharp
On 12/26/2012 12:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: The VXCO quality hardly matters for an NTP server. As long as it does not gain out loose more then 1 uSecond per second. In other words one part per million is fine for NTP. The goal is not to produce a 10MHz GDPDO. Clients using this server