Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board

2013-03-02 Thread gonzo .
Latest docs emailed. On this subject, I've noticed renewed discussion regarding the FE 5680a. I've got parts to put another ten kits together if anyone is in need. After these ten, it will be a matter of reordering boards if there is enough interest. cheers, ian Subject: [time-nuts] FE

[time-nuts] FE 5680A Breakout board - Thanks all

2013-03-02 Thread Geoff Blake
Hi all, Thanks to Herbert, Ian, Ignacio and Nigel for their help in providing, one way or another, the information I required. Herbert asked for a photo of the board and when I dug that out, there nestling on the HDD were the zipped pdf files. There ought to be a law against this, Murphy,

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A/58503A time receiver : 2 questions

2013-03-02 Thread Claude Fender
Thanks you both for your answers. I had another jump (positive this time, 24h after the first one) and the efc curve came back to its previous state, see : http://uppix.net/f/4/d/c5a277798ca58bb04b41481ece6e7.png. The receiver is a 6 channels and it outputs two 10 MHz and one PPS. The antenna

Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board

2013-03-02 Thread corcsal
HI Nigel woul it possble to sent the informatio to me as eMal is corc...@yahoo.ca Than You. From: gandal...@aol.com gandal...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 3:39:43 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board Hi Geoff, Ian's email address is

Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board

2013-03-02 Thread corcsal
Hi Nigel,   Would it possible to sent me a copy as well My eMail is corc...@yahoo.ca   Thank You From: gandal...@aol.com gandal...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 3:39:43 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board Hi Geoff, Ian's email address is

Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board

2013-03-02 Thread corcsal
Hi Nigel, Would it possible to sent me a copy as well My email is corc...@yahoo.ca Thank You From: gandal...@aol.com gandal...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 3:39:43 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE 5860A breakout board Hi Geoff, Ian's email address is

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A/58503A time receiver : 2 questions

2013-03-02 Thread Volker Esper
Claude, I see a jump even smaller than the first one and as I calculated before (in an answere to Said's mail) this latest jump is much less than the first one of 550 microHz. I agree with Said that this could be a crystal jump. If you want to check the GPSDO's absolute frequency you'd

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A/58503A time receiver : 2 questions

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In any closed loop system, it's a bit hard to be 100% sure what moved and what responded to the move. For instance, the reference voltage to the DAC could be jumping. The only way to be sure is to tear everything apart and monitor each piece long term. That said, yes its about 99.(insert

Re: [time-nuts] PTS 3200 remote programming

2013-03-02 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Iban well my knowledge of the older generation is not much use to you :-)) still I always think any response will bring more comments out of the woodwork even if only to correct the false impressions. The suggestion of of a faulty chip on that remote digit sounds like a worthwhile way to go.

[time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Jim Lux
I am interested in the timing behavior of my RSA fob, which changes every 60 seconds. Since I'm not about to open it up and probe inside, I was wondering if someone had a clever way, say using a USB web cam, to log the changes over a 48 hour period. You'd point the web cam at the fob, and it

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread lists
My fob only outputs a code on demand, that is after I push the button. Any of the motion detection programs that use webcams would detect the change in display, but with a multiplexed display, I'm not sure how well. -Original Message- From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net Sender:

[time-nuts] Typical HP 5370B resolution ?

2013-03-02 Thread Frank Stellmach
Mark, The jitter is always around 35ps, typ. I think, you won't change anything on the latter parameter by re alignment, because it's given mainly by the jitter of the Time Interpolators and the zero crossing detectors. The alignment procedure mainly calibrates the absolute T.I. accuracy to

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/2/13 12:30 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: My fob only outputs a code on demand, that is after I push the button. Any of the motion detection programs that use webcams would detect the change in display, but with a multiplexed display, I'm not sure how well. Interesting point.. mine

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I had one for work a while back and asked the IT security guys about it and was told that the change was on a fixed schedule but of course each fob was a little different due to temperature, over time, etc and that the system automatically learned the fobs and opened or tightened its tolerance

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/2/13 1:10 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote: I had one for work a while back and asked the IT security guys about it and was told that the change was on a fixed schedule but of course each fob was a little different due to temperature, over time, etc and that the system automatically learned the

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread lists
If you think about it, there would have to be some time correction if only because these fobs can't be all that accurate in maintaining time. That is, they would be no better than a watch. I'm not so keen on wearing out the internal battery since these things are now $30 instead of $5 when

[time-nuts] CD4069UB atomic source

2013-03-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, Bumped into this, which is great humor in several senses: http://www.techlib.com/electronics/atomic2.html The CD4069UB is an unbuffered hex-inverter. About as simple and low-tech you can get it (6 N-channel and 6 P-channel MOSFETs in total, and yes, protection diodes on the

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Jim, I had a similar challenge a while ago. I ended up capturing a 4-digit, 7-segment display with a USB/LAN webcam, converting the JPG to BMP, analyzing pixel gradients, matching the image with heuristic masks, and appending an ascii log file with the 4 decimal digit result once a minute.

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/2/13 1:29 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: If you think about it, there would have to be some time correction if only because these fobs can't be all that accurate in maintaining time. That is, they would be no better than a watch. I'm not so keen on wearing out the internal battery since

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/2/13 2:52 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Hi Jim, I had a similar challenge a while ago. I ended up capturing a 4-digit, 7-segment display with a USB/LAN webcam, converting the JPG to BMP, analyzing pixel gradients, matching the image with heuristic masks, and appending an ascii log file with the

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Perhaps you can detect EMI from the device especially if you put it it a shielded metal box with pickup antenna. You might be able to get the clock right from that. On 3/2/2013 6:50 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 3/2/13 2:52 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Hi Jim, I had a similar challenge a while ago. I

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Tammy A Wisdom
Most two factor authentication systems have re-sync capability, rsa had thieir token master key compromised for all des based tokens I believe Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 16:41, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/2/13 1:29 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: If you think about

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/03/2013 01:00 AM, Peter Gottlieb wrote: Perhaps you can detect EMI from the device especially if you put it it a shielded metal box with pickup antenna. You might be able to get the clock right from that. Well, considering that actively driving a LCD segment involves passing an AC field

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/2/13 4:12 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 03/03/2013 01:00 AM, Peter Gottlieb wrote: Perhaps you can detect EMI from the device especially if you put it it a shielded metal box with pickup antenna. You might be able to get the clock right from that. Well, considering that actively driving

Re: [time-nuts] webcam app to watch for and time stamp changes

2013-03-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/03/2013 01:39 AM, Jim Lux wrote: On 3/2/13 4:12 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 03/03/2013 01:00 AM, Peter Gottlieb wrote: Perhaps you can detect EMI from the device especially if you put it it a shielded metal box with pickup antenna. You might be able to get the clock right from that.

Re: [time-nuts] PTS 3200 remote programming

2013-03-02 Thread Iban Cardona
Hi Alan, finally I solved the issue removing the 1121 board from the pts3200 and putting a 1121 board from a pts160 and now works perfect. Looks that the unit have some customizations from the manufacturer. Thanks for all guys. 73! Iban eb3frn On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Alan Melia

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I finally got the antenna outside, but just onto a deck railing and not yet up high on the roof. Before I do that, does it look like I'm getting decent performance from it? Here is the LH display: Once up on the roof the Westerly exposure will be improved, but North East and South are

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If there was a file / image attached , it didn't make it through. North doesn't matter much, South is a very big deal. That of course assumes you are in the US or Europe. Bob On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net wrote: I finally got the antenna outside, but just

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Typical, the image didn't go through. Here is a link to it: http://petergottlieb.com/images/tbolt.gif On 3/2/2013 9:45 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote: I finally got the antenna outside, but just onto a deck railing and not yet up high on the roof. Before I do that, does it look like I'm getting

[time-nuts] Nortel EBSCTM-C / NTPB15AB-05

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Has anybody traced out the connections on the DB-37 connector on the back of this beast yet? It's not quite the same as the 110 pin connector on the back of the NTBW50AA. I suspect it's got the same sort of stuff on it. Bob ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi As much as can be told from a 17 minute plot - looks ok. The antenna could indeed be a bit higher and that would hopefully take care of the crummy sat c/n numbers. What kind of feed line / antenna are you using? Cable TV RG-6 quad shield from your local big box store is a real good choice

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Peter Gottlieb
The antenna has a pretty clear sky view right now. I have about 75 feet of cable, 25 feet that came attached permanently to the antenna, might be RG-59, and a 50 foot extension which is a new piece of good quality RG-6 CATV cable. Perhaps the antenna (came with the tbolt in the ebay deal) is

[time-nuts] Nortel EBSCTM-C / NTPB15AB-05

2013-03-02 Thread Arthur Dent
Has anybody traced out the connections on the DB-37 connector on the back of this beast yet? I never looked at the 37-pin connector on the back of the unit but back in December, 2012 I did post that I had added a display and an A.C. supply to the one I had and it seems to be working fine. I

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Peter wrote: The antenna has a pretty clear sky view right now. I have about 75 feet of cable, 25 feet that came attached permanently to the antenna, might be RG-59, and a 50 foot extension which is a new piece of good quality RG-6 CATV cable. Perhaps the antenna (came with the tbolt in

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather numbers

2013-03-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net wrote: The antenna has a pretty clear sky view right now. I have about 75 feet of cable, 25 feet that came attached permanently to the antenna, might be RG-59, and a 50 foot extension which is a new piece of good quality RG-6