Re: [time-nuts] NTP/1-PPS/RS232 question

2013-08-19 Thread Björn
> > david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: >> Although, IIRC from discussions with Dave Hart, the Windows port can >> only >> accept the normal positive-going signal on the DCD line. The devices >> I've >> tested all have positive going signals. Pulse width is typically 100 or >> 200 >> millisecond

Re: [time-nuts] NTP/1-PPS/RS232 question

2013-08-19 Thread Mark C. Stephens
I did an article here: http://www.vk2hmc.net/blog/?p=583 About 1/2 way down the difference between TX/RX and control RS232 signals is explained. --marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: Monday, 19 Augus

Re: [time-nuts] NTP/1-PPS/RS232 question

2013-08-19 Thread Hal Murray
david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: > Although, IIRC from discussions with Dave Hart, the Windows port can only > accept the normal positive-going signal on the DCD line. The devices I've > tested all have positive going signals. Pulse width is typically 100 or 200 > milliseconds, with a few re

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather W/O a PC: Alternative

2013-08-19 Thread David J Taylor
From: Chris Albertson [] Another problem is that people might like to also run NTP server using their Thunderbolt and the Windows OS that LH uses is a very poor choice for NTP, so you'd need a second computer. Best to put both on a little ARM powered board. []

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather W/O a PC: Alternative

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Albertson
The point is that this only makes it cheaper. It is still a PC running Windows in some other room. I think what is wanted is a way to have the Thunderbolt "on-line" so the status shows up wherever you like. Also those old PC notebooks burn more power than you think. Not nearly as much as an ol

[time-nuts] Lady Heather W/O a PC: Alternative

2013-08-19 Thread Perry Sandeen
List,   I have no problem with someone porting LH to any device of their choice.   But at the Huntsville, AL hamfest this last weekend there were a number of fully functional laptops for $29. I didn’t check what OS they were using.   Sure they are about as old as dirt however they are great for g

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Albertson
You might say that if you need to monitor the performance of the Thunderbolt at all, maybe "get a life". The little boxes work just as well when you are not looking. But assuming we all are anti-social geeks who like to look at ADEV plots and the like and worry if our equipment is to close to a

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

2013-08-19 Thread Didier Juges
I have been looking at SNMP intensively for the last 2 weeks. I came to appreciate the warning I saw on one of the first documents I read about it: the protocol is simple although the implementation is not :) While I am sure you can run a useful subset of SNMP on a small machine, there are much sim

Re: [time-nuts] Star Box

2013-08-19 Thread Joseph Gray
It has the normal Rakon TXCO. Joe Gray W5JG On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:45 AM, "Björn" wrote: > Hi Bob & Joe, > > The CMC Allstar was a high quality 12 channel L1 receiver. There was even > an option for the DGPS version to have an onboard OCXO. Joe, does your > have that or the ordinary Rakon

Re: [time-nuts] NOT Lady Heather without a PC

2013-08-19 Thread Robert Atkinson
Sorry for confusion caused by my using the L H words :-) it's called Thunderhead and is a lot cheaper than some solutions if you just want a desktop monitor or can hack an iPaq handheld into your Thunderbolt's case. Details including complied EXE for PocketPC and source code is herehttp://fuzz

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Albertson
Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons 1) If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire GIF image every second, 2) What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he has a large screen? The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a wa

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

2013-08-19 Thread Didier Juges
I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available via the web server. I have done that before for something else (a headless device.) Didier KO4BB Chris Albertson wrote: >On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams >wrote: > >> Would be nice if someone did a Linux po

[time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2013-08-19 Thread Didier Juges
While I am at it, I will put a PPS stretcher and RS-232 driver on the same board since a number of those lose TBolts are used for NTP. I should be able to do that for the same price. It seems that 25 ms positive going should be sufficient? I have created a page to keep track of what I have promi

Re: [time-nuts] NTP/1-PPS/RS232 question

2013-08-19 Thread Hal Murray
hol...@hotmail.com said: > There is also one more available RS232 input pin on the chip. Any > preferences for RTS or DTR? There is a jumper for powering the board from > the RI pin (pin 9) of the RS-232 connector. I have a few PCI cards with jumpers to provide either +5 or +12 to pin 9. (Be

Re: [time-nuts] NTP/1-PPS/RS232 question

2013-08-19 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray Yes, this is right. But watch the polarity. It is easy to get it wrong. In RS-232 the controls pins are different from the data pins. The reference implementation of ntpd can accept either polarity. It's one of the fudge options. = Although, IIRC from

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wrote: > Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a > Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt > installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the > time, or come in remotely

Re: [time-nuts] NTP/1-PPS/RS232 question

2013-08-19 Thread Hal Murray
> Yes, this is right. But watch the polarity. It is easy to get it wrong. > In RS-232 the controls pins are different from the data pins. The reference implementation of ntpd can accept either polarity. It's one of the fudge options. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. __