Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Ed Palmer
Sounds like I need to do some experiments. Thanks for the advice and idea, Bruce. :) Ed On 8/22/2013 12:15 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: That will work to some extent however you need to tailor the stage gain and bandwidth distribution to suit for optimum performance. Its somewhat difficult to co

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Albertson
It's simple, just install and run "NTP" http://www.ntp.org/downloads.html On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Rex Moncur wrote: > I am trying to lock a Windows XP computer to GPS time taking advantage of > both the NEMA sentence and the 1PPS with the hope of getting to within a > few > ms. > > I a

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-21 Thread David J Taylor
I am trying to lock a Windows XP computer to GPS time taking advantage of both the NEMA sentence and the 1PPS with the hope of getting to within a few ms. I am using a Garmin GPS 18PC and the NMEATime program. When I tick the box to implement the 1PPS feature on NMEATime the program locks up eac

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
That will work to some extent however you need to tailor the stage gain and bandwidth distribution to suit for optimum performance. Its somewhat difficult to control the gain and bandwidth of an off the shelf CMOS inverter and you also need to know its noise parameters. Maybe adding resistors in

[time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-21 Thread Rex Moncur
I am trying to lock a Windows XP computer to GPS time taking advantage of both the NEMA sentence and the 1PPS with the hope of getting to within a few ms. I am using a Garmin GPS 18PC and the NMEATime program. When I tick the box to implement the 1PPS feature on NMEATime the program locks up each

Re: [time-nuts] Wawecrest DTS-2077 with TimeLab: was: Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread John Miles
What GPIB adapter are you using? Does the 'Monitor' feature also time out, or just the acquisition itself? -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Adrian > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013

Re: [time-nuts] NITZ Timestamps

2013-08-21 Thread Christopher Quarksnow
Maybe the 15 second offset was to compensate for the old Android bug that derived time from GPS rather than UTC ; Sprint told me at that time they drove most towers with Stratum 2 ref. and only my Android phones exhibited the issue. The other ones were no more than 0.1 sec off. On Wed, Aug 21, 20

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Ed Palmer
On 8/21/2013 5:52 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 08/21/2013 03:51 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: Adrian, I used Timelab to assess the reaction of the DTS-2077 to different sine wave inputs. The differences in the noise floor are surprising. The attached picture was made by taking the output of an HP 864

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/21/2013 06:46 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: > Does anyone know if this situation would benefit from doing something > similar to a 'Collins Hard Limiter' i.e. instead of squaring the > signal in one stage, use maybe two or three cascaded stages with > increasing bandwidths? Normally, Collins limiters

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/21/2013 03:51 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: > Adrian, > > I used Timelab to assess the reaction of the DTS-2077 to different > sine wave inputs. The differences in the noise floor are surprising. > The attached picture was made by taking the output of an HP 8647A > Synthesized Generator through a sp

[time-nuts] NITZ Timestamps

2013-08-21 Thread Tom Harris
Here's a general question about the NITZ timestamp that is sent by the phone tower when your mobile connects to it. Why are they so far off from the actual time? I have seen offsets up to 15 seconds behind, mind you this was from a tower in the bush, city towers are usually only 2 secs behind. Tom

Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Ed Palmer
Since you're looking for rise times in the low or sub nanosecond range, why wouldn't you include any logic gates where such rise times are inherent? I was thinking of maybe a chain of faster and faster logic gates. For example, Potato Semiconductor - no, I'm not making that up - PO74G04A has

Re: [time-nuts] Warped back to 1993

2013-08-21 Thread Russell Rezaian
This seems to impact some, but not all, XL-DC units. At least one of mine was impacted, some of the others were not. I think it depends on firmware version. If you check and set the f68 "Set Year" option this will probably let you get things back to displaying the correct date. At least it

Re: [time-nuts] Warped back to 1993

2013-08-21 Thread Tammy A Wisdom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It looks like it affects truetime XL-DC's I just noticed it at my house as well :( On 8/11/13 07:09:40, Magnus Danielson wrote: > If Furuno can supply the FW to update with, we would be more than > happy. > > A slight alteration of the code would suf

Re: [time-nuts] strange hp 5345A option C19

2013-08-21 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Luca There are other items of HP equipment fitted with Ref Out and Ref In terminals joined by an external link, with the intention that the link is removed to connect an external standard to the Ref In terminal, but in a "normal" 5345A the external reference is used to phase lock the i

[time-nuts] HP 5061A or B top cover

2013-08-21 Thread cdelect
Hi, Anyone have top and bottom covers from a junked HP 5061A or B (also 5065A)??? I have LOTS of 5061 parts for a swap or can pay a reasonable amount. Thanks! Corby Dawson ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https:

Re: [time-nuts] Wawecrest DTS-2077 with TimeLab: was: Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-21 Thread Adrian
To be more precise, I have a working DTS-2077 and tried it a few times with TimeLab. TimeLab was always running fine for a few seconds but then it stopped and displayed a timeout error. So, what's wrong? Adrian Adrian schrieb: Ed, thanks for posting! I'm still looking for a MUX board for my

[time-nuts] strange hp 5345A option C19

2013-08-21 Thread Luca Dal Passo
Dear all, I have bought an HP 5345A. It’s ok and I’m very glad. On the rear panel it is wrote "OPTION C19" (a little bit strange!) and there are two additional BNC installed on the little panel normally used to place the HPIB connector when present. These 2 BNCs are named REF OUT and REF IN