Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstream/2014/36903/1/01-2617.pdf among other things illustrates a modified approach to the offset generator by replacing the intermediate phase locked VCXO with a bandpass filter. Bruce On Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:03 PM, Bert Kehren via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I wonder what they are using for the “lpf / zero crossers” in that version. Bob On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstream/2014/36903/1/01-2617.pdf among other things illustrates a modified approach to the

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-16 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/16/14, 3:59 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I wonder what they are using for the “lpf / zero crossers” in that version. Aren't those the usual limiter chain? Described in earlier papers by the same folks. There was a lot of discussion about this architecture on the list a few years ago.

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-16 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 16.10.2014 um 02:02 schrieb Bert Kehren via time-nuts: Take a look at Potato chips yes Potato I have used them with good results Bert Kehren 330551715157 They don't impress me much. Yes, they can drive my 0.6pF active probes without a problem, but connecting just one of their own

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I guess I should have been a bit more specific. The latest paper is from about 10 years after their papers on limiters. I wonder if they have any “new stuff” in the limiter part of the new(er) system. I also wonder if there’s been any progress in the 8 years since the latest paper. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Well, been there / done that in this case. The 100EP noise floor is nothing exciting. It’s 1/F corner isn’t very impressive either. Bob On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Gerhard Hoffmann dk...@arcor.de wrote: Am 16.10.2014 um 02:02 schrieb Bert Kehren via time-nuts: Take a look at Potato

[time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread Dave M
I'm looking for effective coaxial lightning arrestors for my GPSDO antennas. I've seen several types; those completely enclosed in a one-piece metal enclosure (no replaceable components) and those having a replaceable gas discharge tube seem to predominate the list. I'm looking closely at the

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are a number of them on the auction sites. They are fairly specific in terms of frequency band and application. Bob On Oct 16, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net wrote: I'm looking for effective coaxial lightning arrestors for my GPSDO antennas. I've seen several

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread Chris Albertson
Lightening arrestors are an important part of a protection system but just installing some in the antenna cable is not going to help so much. You need a system approach. If you do it right you can take a direct hit The big problem with grounding is Ohm's Law. That is if any current flows in a

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread Dave M
Thanks, Chris. I've done a bit or research on the subject, and think I have a reasonable grip on the necessary steps. I have an 8' ground rod driven into the ground directly under the spot where my antennas mount. #6 solid copper from the rod to a heavy aluminum plate, where the arrestors

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/16/14, 6:27 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Lightening arrestors are an important part of a protection system but just installing some in the antenna cable is not going to help so much. You need a system approach. If you do it right you can take a direct hit The big problem with grounding is

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread Bill Hawkins
Years ago, I visited an installation that used a large triggered spark gap to discharge a large bank of caps at 100 KV into the primary of an air wound (about 8 feet in diameter) 1:10 step up pulse transformer connected to two aluminum plates about 30 feet square separated by several feet of water

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning arrestors for GPSDO antenna

2014-10-16 Thread ed breya
Of all device types, I think gas tubes are the best for this sort of application - very low C, and high surge current rating. I'm picturing the kind that are used in power supplies and such for limiting line transients - about 1 cm dia and length with axial leads. I don't know what kind are