Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-17 Thread Hal Murray
csteinm...@yandex.com said: That one is not ideal for this task, because (i) its output pulse is symmetrical about the mains zero cross, and (ii) the hysteresis zone is not well characterized and will drift with temperature and input voltage. So, there is no edge that is well characterized

[time-nuts] Time Nuts Overload

2014-12-17 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi everyone, The past couple of weeks or month it seems we've had a lot more traffic than usual. This is a reminder that there are 1300 of us and we look forward to rich content on this list. Postings that have little technical content, or are based on guessing, or are just one-liners, or

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-17 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Hal wrote: What are you going to do with data from the line accurate to 1 microsecond? Me? Nothing. I don't find the meanderings of the mains frequency all that interesting, aside from observing them from time to time via the sweep second hand of a synchronous wall clock. But lots of

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Charles Steinmetz csteinm...@yandex.com wrote: Bob wrote: The Collins paper on hard limiters does indeed apply here. You *could* make a 60 Hz chain that got down into 1 us sort of resolution. I don't know how much less than 1uS you mean by , but I was

Re: [time-nuts] Choke Rings and Points North

2014-12-17 Thread Bob Camp
HI On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:07 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: I would venture that the extent of the magic was to note the physical center of the array, and call that the phase center. As long as you always orient the antenna in the same direction, any errors that might exist in

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Dec 17, 2014, at 3:27 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: csteinm...@yandex.com said: That one is not ideal for this task, because (i) its output pulse is symmetrical about the mains zero cross, and (ii) the hysteresis zone is not well characterized and will drift with

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: CGSIC: FW: New NANU 2014090

2014-12-17 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Not sure if this is quite the right platform, but for someone wanting to experiment it may be worth a look... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swiftnav/piksi-the-rtk-gps-receiver http://www.swiftnav.com/piksi.html Dan Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:01:28 -0800 From: Jim

Re: [time-nuts] Choke Rings and Points North

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/17/14, 4:36 AM, Bob Camp wrote: HI On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:07 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: I would venture that the extent of the magic was to note the physical center of the array, and call that the phase center. As long as you always orient the antenna in the same

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: CGSIC: FW: New NANU 2014090

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/17/14, 5:20 AM, Dan Kemppainen wrote: Not sure if this is quite the right platform, but for someone wanting to experiment it may be worth a look... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swiftnav/piksi-the-rtk-gps-receiver http://www.swiftnav.com/piksi.html from that page: 3-bit, 16.368

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-17 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Seems to me CFLs and other loads switching on and off would affect the 60 Hz waveform enough to make microsecond measurements meaningless. On 12/17/2014 01:03 AM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Hal wrote: What are you going to do with data from the line accurate to 1 microsecond? Me? Nothing.

[time-nuts] Z3812A

2014-12-17 Thread planophore
I have searched to no avail. Has anyone a pointer to a real manual for the Z3812A / KS-x devices? cheers, Graham ve3gtc ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

[time-nuts] linux kernel pps support

2014-12-17 Thread folkert
Did a test for a while: every 5 minutes I would look at the output of ntpq -c pe -n for jitter of the pps source. This pps source was measured either in the kernel (this newly added gpio pps support in the raspberry pi) or in user space using my own rpi_gpio_ntp. kernel pps interrupt handling

Re: [time-nuts] linux kernel pps support

2014-12-17 Thread Paul
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:56 AM, folkert folk...@vanheusden.com wrote: Did a test for a while: every 5 minutes I would look at the output of ntpq -c pe -n for jitter of the pps source. I have some interest in various ntp comparisons but it's not really time-nuts material. Would you be

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/17/14, 6:46 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: Seems to me CFLs and other loads switching on and off would affect the 60 Hz waveform enough to make microsecond measurements meaningless. folks measure the frequency to tenths of a Hz (albeit not a single cycle).. 0.1 Hz out of 60 Hz is 27

Re: [time-nuts] CGSIC: FW: New NANU 2014090

2014-12-17 Thread John Seamons
On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: but there probably are some software receivers (open source?) out there.. I'll add to the list: Fellow time-nut Peter Monta's GNSS Firehose http://pmonta.com/blog/2014/06/17/new-gnss-firehose-board/

Re: [time-nuts] Z3812A

2014-12-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Since the box was only made for Lucent, it’s a good bet that there is no formal manual. There may be a spec sheet or something in a non-manual format. For right now, the best bet is to grab the Z3801 manuals that are out there. The boxes are similar enough that the info in one sort of

Re: [time-nuts] Choke Rings and Points North

2014-12-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 12/17/14, 4:36 AM, Bob Camp wrote: HI On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:07 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: I would venture that the extent of the magic was to note the physical center of the array, and call that the

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and comm port setup...

2014-12-17 Thread Chris Albertson
I keep a VMware image file with a very old copy on Windows on it just for old programs like this. The image file will boot up on a Mac or Linux machine or even in a Win 7 PC. I keep thinking it would be good to re-write LH so it would run on a more reasonable/modern platform but there are about

Re: [time-nuts] STEL-1173/CM Source

2014-12-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Ed, On 11/15/2014 04:38 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Yes, I'm sure. I did check the cabling. :) If I was somehow measuring the Tbolt or 4065A against itself, there wouldn't be any frequency offset. The Oscilloquartz 3210 (which appears to be an OEM'd 4065A) is spec'ed at 3E-13 @ 100K seconds. The