Re: [time-nuts] homebrew counter new board test result

2015-02-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
Tom, On 02/27/2015 01:18 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: 2) Does any one have the test data of 12 digit/s counter when DUT=REF? I want to know the gap between mine and a commercial counter. Thanks Li Ang I did a lot of testing of 53132A counters a while back to research how well the

Re: [time-nuts] Recording mains frequency

2015-02-28 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Daniel wrote: I designed a board with an OCXO, pic microcontroller, power supply, mains interface with optocoupler, and SD card for data collection..* * * The boards also have a small Li-Ion battery and battery charger for short power outages. Boards are manufatured and the most

[time-nuts] Recording mains frequency/phase [WAS: No GPS satellites]

2015-02-28 Thread Mark Sims
When I first came across that article on theregister.com, I thought that it was a rather cute idea and decided to give it a try. I set up a couple of data recorders that logged AC zero crossings to an SD card (with 64 Mhz clock resolution). They were set up around 8 miles apart. I also

Re: [time-nuts] Recording mains frequency/phase [WAS: No GPSsatellites]

2015-02-28 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Daniel, That will be an interesting experiment. I'm happy you are doing it. You may want to run all five boards within the same house first -- to establish your noise floor and to check your post-processing (non-aligned log files, glitches, power fails, oscillator drift, etc.). Here's one

Re: [time-nuts] Recording mains frequency/phase [WAS: No GPSsatellites]

2015-02-28 Thread DaveH
Like this? http://fnetpublic.utk.edu/gradientmap.html I am the dot just below the Canadian border in WA State. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Philip Gladstone Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 07:47 To: Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew counter new board test result

2015-02-28 Thread Tom Van Baak
A good paper to read about the trouble when DUT is close (or equal to REF) is: http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/5990-9189EN.pdf Isolating Frequency Measurement Error and Sourcing Frequency Error near the Reference Frequency Harmonics Nice reading and illustration of the

Re: [time-nuts] Recording mains frequency/phase [WAS: No GPS satellites]

2015-02-28 Thread Daniel Mendes
I´m planning an experiment like that... I designed a board with an OCXO, pic microcontroller, power supply, mains interface with optocoupler, and SD card for data collection.. I plan to sincronize a counter running at 10MHz between them and log events at 5 different points in my city. The

[time-nuts] simple explanation of noise spectra with mixing, etc.

2015-02-28 Thread Jim Lux
Is there a handy one pager kind of explanation of noise spectra after some forms of signal processing.. For instance, if you have a oscillator which has a 1/f characteristic, and you mix it with itself, what is the spectra of the output of the mixer. Or if you have a 1/f^3 characteristic

Re: [time-nuts] Recording mains frequency/phase [WAS: No GPS satellites]

2015-02-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bob, On 02/27/2015 08:24 PM, Bob Camp wrote: HI On Feb 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Philip Gladstone pjsg-timen...@nospam.gladstonefamily.net wrote: On 2/26/15 20:39, Charles Steinmetz wrote: ben wrote: I'm going to have to build one of these. Assume you have some sort of circuit that