Re: [time-nuts] Divide by 3

2016-07-07 Thread Nick Sayer via time-nuts
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/on-semiconductor/MC74VHC1G86DTT1G/MC74VHC1G86DTT1GOSCT-ND/2705092 https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/nxp-semiconductors/74HC74D,653/568-1490-1-ND/763395 > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > > Nick wrote: > >> I got the boards

[time-nuts] Any time-nuts around Pittsburgh?

2016-07-07 Thread Attila Kinali
Hoi zäme! I will be at a conference in Pittsburgh next week and will be staying there for ~10 days. Are there any time-nuts in the area who'd care for a drink? Attila Kinali -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. _

[time-nuts] Austron 6014 ?

2016-07-07 Thread mark & berit
Did anyone come up with a manual for the Austron 6014? I am also in need of one. Thanks. Mark, W7FTZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instruct

Re: [time-nuts] Visiting Greenwich

2016-07-07 Thread Dave Martindale
Hmm. When I was there yesterday I didn't see any "No Photography" signs, so I photographed lots of the exhibits, including the four Harrisons . I used flash, so I wasn't the least bit stealthy, and one of the staff was only a few feet away. Maybe they no longer care? Dave On Wednesday, 6 July 2

Re: [time-nuts] Visiting Greenwich

2016-07-07 Thread Peter Torry via time-nuts
Dave, The rules have changed regarding photography for all National Trust properties so click away. Regards Peter On 07/07/2016 21:41, Dave Martindale wrote: Hmm. When I was there yesterday I didn't see any "No Photography" signs, so I photographed lots of the exhibits, including the four

Re: [time-nuts] Divide by 3

2016-07-07 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Nick wrote: >> Charles wrote: >> >> What specific chips did you use? > > Nick wrote: > > MC74VHC1G86 > 74HC74D Good to know, thanks. Just FYI, you may want to look into the NC7SZ86 (and other NC7SZ "TinyLogic" series parts). The NC7SZ86 is pin-compatible with the 74VHC1G part, with several a

[time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
I hope this isn't too far off topic, as this is having a big impact on my testing. I decided to run an A/B test on one of my GPSDOs: comparing the phase of the two 10MHz output channels.  In the middle of the night, there was a long series of 35ns pops in the phase data.  Strangely enough, ther

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Jeremy Nichols
I recommend rigging up something to operate from storage batteries for the rest, thus eliminating the power line temporarily. Jeremy N6WFO On Thursday, July 7, 2016, Bob Stewart wrote: > I hope this isn't too far off topic, as this is having a big impact on my > testing. > > I decided to run a

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Tim Shoppa
1/35ns is about 30MHz. Is there anything in your clock chains that is ticking at 30MHz, such that a false count or slipped count induced by inductive disruption, would cause a 35ns phase jump? Related thread: https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2016-May/098028.html Tim N3QE On Thu, Jul 7, 2

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
So, since I need to power the 5370 (preferably both) I'm looking at a deep cycle battery, a charger, and an inverter?  At this point in the process, a power line monitor is looking like a good solution.  At least it would tell me to ignore the test results. Bob   ---

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Tim, I don't see how it could be related to a clock chain in my unit.  I'm quite literally running the two outputs from one unit through about a meter of coax each to the 5370.  These two outputs are from a single 74HCT365.  Pins 12 and 14 of the chip (the inputs) are tied together, and pins

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
Tim, There is one variable that I neglected to mention in the first response.  I've been unhappy with the stability of the 10811s in both 5370s.  So, for this test, I'm using the 10MHz output from another one of my units to supply the clock.  In the past 71,000 seconds of the retest, I'm seeing

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi As has been mentioned a few times before …. the best approach is to run batteries to supply the gear in question off of DC power. Running everything off of it’s own battery may not be practical if you have gear that is looking for 12V, 15V, 18V, 24V, 28V, 48V and -12V. The practical answer i

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Hal Murray
b...@evoria.net said: > So, what to do?  I've been looking at UPS devices, and I don't even > understand enough to waste my money on a bad one. A UPS has 2 major properties. One is the amount of power it can put out. The other is the battery size which translates into how long it will last. T

[time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Mark Sims
I've found that the HP-5065A rubidium makes for a pretty decent power line monitor. Mine will trip the "continuous operation" indicator on power glitches that most power line monitors ignore (including some rather high dollar ones). ___

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Have you been through the full alignment process on one or both of the 5370’s ? They are as much an analog beast as they are digital. They *do* drift out of calibration / alignment / adjustment. When they go it’s usually not all of a sudden. They just gradually get worse and worse as the ad

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Bob, They're spikes.  So, what I'll do is just keep a test like this running for the next few days as I do other things.  I'll go ahead and put it back on internal clock, just in case.  If I see nothing, I'm going to have to conclude it's the power line.  If bad weather comes back and they ha

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Hal Murray
b...@evoria.net said: > So, since I need to power the 5370 (preferably both) I'm looking at a deep > cycle battery, a charger, and an inverter?  At this point in the process, a > power line monitor is looking like a good solution.  At least it would tell > me to ignore the test results. Yes, you

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Clay Autery
You'd be better off running the GPSDO off a LiFePO battery and float charge the battery with an appropriately constructed linear PS... ALL but the most expensive UPSs use switch-mode power supplies... to power the load when on mains. __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (31

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
Nothing looks good at the moment.  It may be that I just have to trust the equipment testing and if there's a big blip that's not repeatable, then it didn't happen.  No, I don't like it either. Bob  --- GFS GPSDO lis

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread DaveH
I have this set up in my radio room with ham radio equipment and my thunderbolt. I got the same size battery as is in my truck so if that fails, I have a drop-in replacement. There is a company in the USA that manufactures a product called BatteryTender - excellent float charger and maintainer. Co

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20160708041855.562d7406...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net>, Hal Mu rray writes: >b...@evoria.net said: >> So, since I need to power the 5370 (preferably both) I've been staring at the 5370 PSU many times, it is a horribly inefficient design. The 5V rails are regulated down

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-07 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Clay, Powering the GPSDOs isn't a problem.  They run on 12V and draw less than an amp.  The problem is that 5370 is a big hulking power sink and it appears that when it's hit with a spike it lets its displeasure be known in the data. Bob  ---