Re: [time-nuts] ntp and asymmetric delays

2016-10-11 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, I think you are correct except in one case. The NMEA offset may very well be mostly because the NMEA sentence is actually "off". Such sentences may be as much as a full second "off". First the NMEA standard requires only one second accuracy and also the sentence is sent over a slow serial

Re: [time-nuts] HP 59309A Clock runs, sets via GPIB, but no GPIB output?

2016-10-11 Thread Jeremy Nichols
Interested if no one has already spoken got the HP59309. Jeremy N6WFO On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: > Cleaning up I ran across today a HP59309, if some one is interested please > contact me off list before I put it on ebay. > Bert Kehren > > > In a message date

Re: [time-nuts] ntp and asymmetric delays

2016-10-11 Thread Vlad
There is good article to read http://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/103/clock-synchronization-in-a-network-with-asymmetric-delays Probably NTPD uses a weighting schema when processing the measurements. However, beyond a certain level of delay the measurements are likely to be so corrupted as

[time-nuts] HP59309A gone

2016-10-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
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Re: [time-nuts] ntp and asymmetric delays

2016-10-11 Thread Hal Murray
t...@westwood-tech.com said: > I was going to post my ntp output and ask for an opinion, then this > discussion popped up. It would appear that asymmetric delays are the exact > explanation for what I am seeing. Is that a reasonable assumption? It does > seem to be rather consistent throughout

[time-nuts] Anyone looking for HP 5060A parts/modules?

2016-10-11 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello time-nuts, I have acquired three boxes of modules and parts to Hewlett-Packard 5060A cesium standards. As I don't have one of these units they are excess to my needs. Don't know if anyone still has one of these units ticking as they are quite old and cesium tubes have probably long expired

[time-nuts] HP59309A clock that you found?

2016-10-11 Thread Bob
Hi Bert, Yes, I am interested if you are willing to part with it, I will give it a very good home and even use the HP-IB for backup wall clock time when reading other HP counters. 650.305.0069 and I have a fedex account you would use for shipping if that works for you. Cheers, Bob __

Re: [time-nuts] HP 59309A Clock runs, sets via GPIB, but no GPIB output?

2016-10-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Cleaning up I ran across today a HP59309, if some one is interested please contact me off list before I put it on ebay. Bert Kehren In a message dated 10/11/2016 1:54:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, francesco.messi...@gmail.com writes: 1818-2295A dump has been uploaded to ko4bb site, probab

Re: [time-nuts] New PPB rated TCXO

2016-10-11 Thread jimlux
On 10/11/16 8:38 AM, Scott Stobbe wrote: This is also showed up on a recent EDN "feature" http://www.edn.com/design/analog/4442801/1/MEMS-oscillator-reduces-dropped-calls-in-base-stations " archaic Quartz oscillator solutions." love it. ___ t

Re: [time-nuts] HP 59309A Clock runs, sets via GPIB, but no GPIB output?

2016-10-11 Thread Francesco Messineo
1818-2295A dump has been uploaded to ko4bb site, probably there's need to be moved in the right place before it's available. On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Francesco Messineo wrote: > Hi Dave, > right, once I find the dumps, I'll upload them. > thanks > Frank IZ8DWF > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at

Re: [time-nuts] ntp and asymmetric delays

2016-10-11 Thread Thomas Valerio
I was going to post my ntp output and ask for an opinion, then this discussion popped up. It would appear that asymmetric delays are the exact explanation for what I am seeing. Is that a reasonable assumption? It does seem to be rather consistent throughout the day, however. The reason for chec

Re: [time-nuts] New PPB rated TCXO

2016-10-11 Thread Scott Stobbe
This is also showed up on a recent EDN "feature" http://www.edn.com/design/analog/4442801/1/MEMS-oscillator-reduces-dropped-calls-in-base-stations A Rakon designer chimed in on the comments. On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Robert LaJeunesse wrote: > For general group information, as SiTime d

[time-nuts] Austron and GPIB gone

2016-10-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
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Re: [time-nuts] New PPB rated TCXO

2016-10-11 Thread Graham / KE9H
If you have a legitimate application for the part, and some volume associated with the application, and you convince their sales person of that, then the data sheets are made available. --- Graham On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:01 AM, jimlux wrote: > On 10/10/16 11:27 PM, djl wrote: > >> But how the

Re: [time-nuts] New PPB rated TCXO

2016-10-11 Thread jimlux
On 10/10/16 11:27 PM, djl wrote: But how the heck did they get some? According to the website, even data sheets are not available. Don It's not unusual for one to be able to get small quantities of a pre-release product if you have a relationship with the manufacturer/sales engineers. Typical

[time-nuts] OCXO and GPIB

2016-10-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Downsizing after my move many items have ended up in the trash. Some will go on ebay and some I have given away for the cost of shipping on time nuts. Here are two more. Response please off list. National Instruments GPIB-PCI card new Austron 1150 OCXO 5 MHz no EFC tested, will make a nice offs

Re: [time-nuts] New PPB rated TCXO

2016-10-11 Thread Henry Hallam
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I take it they know how to price a gem like that ? > > Any ball-park numbers for us ? I don't have any price info for the "Super-TCXO" but I'd be surprised if it were crazy, SiTime's other products are all pretty reasonably priced. On