Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Perry, I have done the exercise on another book. The copyright holder released the material under Creative Commons license, so that helped to remove any issues and let us focus on the content. We put it on github and from the OCR original I did a translation into LaTeX. Even on the third or i

Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
It was not my intent to suggest that Perry should continue the work using Latex. I was merely considering the most effective and efficient way to complete this undertaking, whoever elects to pick it up. The original is written in English so an extensive knowledge of French isn't required. At 6

Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Bill Hawkins
Friends in time, Perry has apparently reached a major change in his life, perhaps because of a doctor's diagnosis - but there are zillions of other reasons. It seems to me that he is looking for someone to pick up his project and run with it. Advising him on the ways he could continue is probably

Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread William H. Fite
Latex really is the only way to go. It is the de facto standard and not all that hard to learn. My spouse and I have used it extensively for more than 15 years, constructing some fairly arcane formulae in quantum theory. On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Using Latex for the

[time-nuts] HP 420B Clip On DC Milliampmeter FS

2018-01-02 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi,   I have a HP 420B Clip On DC Milliampmeter with Probe FS as I’mmoving in the spring.   Current measured goes from 1 mA FS to 10 Amps FS.   I have not used it since I bought it several years ago.  The reliable vendor who sold it to me had guaranteedthat it worked.  Will guarantee it is

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
I asked Bill for clarification and here's some of what he shared: > Tom: > > I’m glad that the word is getting out that Stable32 is now freely available. > The Version 1.62 that is available for download from the IEEE UFFC site is > identical to the last commercial Version 1.61 except for its UFF

[time-nuts] HP 54501A digitizing O’scope FS

2018-01-02 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi,   I have a HP 54501A 100MHz digitizing o’scope   Two  probes (notoriginal)   1ea  HP 54501ADigitizing O’scop Front panel Operation Reference   1ea  HP 54501ADigitizing O’scope Programming Reference   Screen is razor sharp. When first turned on a message shows in small type “cal ram

Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Using Latex for the typesetting is probably the optimum solution for a Technical/Scientific publiication such as this. Most such publications are typeset using Latex these days. If one is familiar with Latex the odd typo when typesetting an equation (for example) can make it blatantly obvious t

[time-nuts] HP Test equipment catalogs FS

2018-01-02 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi,   Amongst my rubble I found 4 more HP test equipment catalogs.They are 1982, 1985, 1987, and 1991.  $10each plus shipping from 92220 or $50 plus shipping for all four.  Yes, $50 for all four as I’ve got to put themin a box.   If interested, please send and ORIGINAL E-Mail.  If you do a re

[time-nuts] HP Test equipment catalogs FS

2018-01-02 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi,   Amongst my rubble I found 4 more HP test equipment catalogs.They are 1982, 1985, 1987, and 1991.  $10each plus shipping from 92220 or $50 plus shipping for all four.  Yes $50 for all four as I’ve got to put themin a box.   If interested, please send and ORIGINAL E-Mail.  If you do a rep

Re: [time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Artek Manuals
Perry et all As someone who indirectly makes a living (? ...ok so it pays for my addiction to expensive electronic toys) with OCR as a tool , I can tell you that OCR can bring a host of errors.Most OCR engines that i am familiar with do not read in context. The largest error source are charac

[time-nuts] Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed

2018-01-02 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
HI, At the request of a TN member (who wishes to remain anonymous)I started to reproduce:   The Quantum Physics of Atomic Frequency Standards Volume 1By Jacques Vanier  Division de Physique,Conseil National de Recherches, Ottawa and Claude Audoin  Laboratoire de I’Horloge Atomique, CentreNatio

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Magnus D anielson writes: >If we rather focused on maintaining and extent it into the >future, that would be a great way to take care of the heritage. I can >see myself contributing to that. Ditto. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Tom, On 01/02/2018 03:46 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: >> From "Paul Alfille" : >> Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary? > > I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information. I've already sent a message to Bill too. >> From "Magnus Danielson" >> Now, the code need

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Attila, Since we talk background noise and white noise, the amplitude is the same for AM and PM. This is part of the AM/PM lecture of NIST that I know you have participated in at least once. Under the assumption of low modulation index, which is fair assumption for background noise compared to mo

Re: [time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Just as with PM noise, AM noise is a “that depends” sort of thing. The first dependency is on your test gear. If the AM noise was well below the PM noise, would you be able to measure it? Equally, if you are doing something like a diode detector - can it measure AM below XXX dbc? If the dete

[time-nuts] AM vs PM noise of signal sources

2018-01-02 Thread Attila Kinali
Hi, I am currently looking at noise calculations that deal with AM and PM noise. To check whether the calculations make sense, I am looking for some numbers of the white noise floor AM and PM noise levels of signal sources. Unfortunately, almost everyone only deals with PM noise and hardly anyone

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A AC-Amplifier (A7) Improved (?) version...

2018-01-02 Thread paul swed
Do not seem to find it on the the KO4BB site at least yet. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts < time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > Gentlemen, > I have assembled (what I hope is) an improved version of theA7 AC > Amplifier of the HP5065A. It has been instal

[time-nuts] HP5065A AC-Amplifier (A7) Improved (?) version...

2018-01-02 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Gentlemen, I have assembled (what I hope is) an improved version of theA7 AC Amplifier of the HP5065A. It has been installed inmy (1968) model of the 5065A and it is working. The documentation has been uploaded to the KO4BB manual site. 73 Ulf KylenfallSM6GXV

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
FWIW, for me the hardest part of working with Stable32 is getting the input scaling and other parameters like timestamps correct. If you think like a mathematician, you'll probably do fine. But I don't, and when working in particular with frequency data it always takes me a few tries to get i

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
> From "Paul Alfille" : > Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary? I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information. > From "paul swed" > I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book. When I first started using Stable32 I tried to document each step. See examples

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread paul swed
Dave I looked at the link. Expecting the typical $132 and up... Its Lulu and $19.95. I have ordered books from them before and been very happy with the product. I can not answer your question on how up to date it is. But will look at the pdf. If its even a bit decent the $ investment is cheap for

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed wrote: > Jelen > Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading > details. > I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages. > I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for > dummies book. > Re

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread paul swed
Jelen Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading details. I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages. I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Bob kb8tq

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 January 2018 at 09:30, Matthias Jelen wrote: > Dear Time-Nuts, > > Happy New Year! > > Maybe this is of interest for some of you: > > A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the > possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated > Stabl

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If the code also *is* part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I would suggest that there are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does what it does. I have no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big program with a lot of resea

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Paul Alfille
Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary? On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > Hi, > > Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing. > > Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to > see it run natively on Linux, it do

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing. Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine. The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github, preferably with a suit

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Very interesting news. It would be nice to be able to set the RS232 port to work with the TICC in real time. Luciano www.timeok.it Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com A "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@febo.com Cc Data Tue, 2 Jan 201

[time-nuts] Stable32 now available

2018-01-02 Thread Matthias Jelen
Dear Time-Nuts, Happy New Year! Maybe this is of interest for some of you: A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download wit