Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Alberto wrote: If you have a sound card capable of sampling at 192 kS/s, you don't need an SDR to receive a signal at 60 kHz... just connect the output of an active antenna, like e.g. the mini-whip, directly to the Line-In of the sound card * * * I used this method in the past to successful

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The sample rate on a sound card is not always a good indication of it’s performance. Some 192 KS/s cards have cutoff’s below 50 KHz. Others have a noise spectrum that rises quite a bit past 30 or 40 KHz. Lots to dig into …. Bob > On May 5, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote: > > If

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Alberto di Bene
If you have a sound card capable of sampling at 192 kS/s, you don't need an SDR to receive a signal at 60 kHz... just connect the output of an active antenna, like e.g. the mini-whip, directly to the Line-In of the sound card, then use, for example, HDSDR as software, setting the sampling freque

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Dana Whitlow
Alex- how many turns on that loop? Dana On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Alexander Pummer wrote: > tuned,[ fine-tuning with vari-caps remotely] large size frame antenna 1 > meter dia provides mV size 60kHz in the Livermore area in California from > the Colorado WWVB TX > 73 > KJ6UHN > Alex > >

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Alexander Pummer
tuned,[ fine-tuning with vari-caps remotely] large size frame antenna 1 meter dia provides mV size 60kHz in the Livermore area in California from the Colorado WWVB TX 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 5/5/2018 6:17 AM, Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts wrote: I am trying to use the 60 KHz for synchronization of a

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[time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Bruce Hunter via time-nuts
I have found the proximity of my home computer has kept a bedroom projection clock from locking to WWVB. Apparently the noise radiation from the computer effectively jams the 60 kHz signal. By setting the clock out on a deck about 30 feet further away from the computer, the clock locks up ev

[time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Bruce Hunter via time-nuts
I have found the proximity of my home computer has kept a bedroom projection clock from locking to WWVB. Apparently the noise radiation from the computer effectively jams the 60 kHz signal. By setting the clock out on a deck about 30 feet further away from the computer, the clock locks up ev

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you want delay ( hardware delay and not propagation), calibrating a SDR should not be to nutty. Some boards ( the Lime SDR comes to mind) will generate a signal as well as receive one. That could be piped into a scope to make the measurement fairly easy. Once you know what is going into th

[time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Mark Sims
Although it does not measure propagation delays, Lady Heather can now estimate propagation delays. You can enter the lat/lon/alt of the station or specify the station name. You can enter the ionosphere height, or Heather will estimate it depending upon the month. --- > I'd

[time-nuts] Anyone have a spare TAPR TNS-BUF for sale?

2018-05-05 Thread JAMES ROBBINS
Does anyone have a spare TAPR TNS-BUF amplifier which they would be willing to sell? Many thanks. Jim Robbins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hal, Some SDRs can tune that low and should provide a means to determine if noise is really the problem as well as give some clues as to the character of said noise. But they are much less likely to help with delay determination, unless you can figure out a practical way to ascertain the latency

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Even if you get the 60 KHz process working, a $20 GPS module ( or maybe $50) will do a much better job. That’s not saying *don’t* do the WWVB stuff. Just realize it’s limitations. A second limitation is that the new phase modulation process makes comparison a bit more complex. 60 KHz noi

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread ew via time-nuts
contact me off list I have a couple   Bert Kehren   In a message dated 5/5/2018 9:17:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, time-nuts@febo.com writes:     I am trying to use the 60 KHz for synchronization of a Rb receiver. The local NJ noise and the signal in dBuV are about the same with an active antenn

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts
  I am trying to use the 60 KHz for synchronization of a Rb receiver. The local NJ noise and the signal in dBuV are about the same with an active antenna, electric field.  A better solution might be a ferrite selective antenna, H field , if I find one.   73 de N1UL      In a message dated 5/5/20

[time-nuts] WWVB: measuring local 60 KHz noise

2018-05-05 Thread Hal Murray
Review/background: I have an UltraLink 333 WWVB receiver. It didn't work. Several weeks ago. a discussion here mentioned that the phone cable between the main box and antenna needs to be straight through rather than the typical reversed. That was my problem. With the correct cable, the mete