Re: [time-nuts] 82357B GPIB USB from China

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Smither
ht one about a year ago but couldn't get it running under Win XP. >> There were a dozen well-meant advices on the forums that told me to read >> the firmware and flash the beast with a "better" one. However, I >> couldn't keep my nerve, so I purchased a Prologix

[time-nuts] 82357B GPIB USB from China

2013-09-10 Thread Bob Smither
hash=item3cd4efb089 or http://tinyurl.com/qbsjjmr Has anyone here tried this? In particular, can it be made to work under Linux? I have the Prologix unit which works great with simple PERL scripts under Linux, but always looking for a bargain! Thanks, -- Bob Smither,

Re: [time-nuts] Lightning Strike Site

2013-09-09 Thread Bob Smither
to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > Here is another one: http://www.strikestarus.com/ -- Bob Smither, Ph.D. - Linux User 281-331-2744; fax:-4616 smit...@c-c-i.com =

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB ...

2013-07-07 Thread Bob Smither
Search for "17,000 ufd." Sprague 17,000 ufd at 20 Volts, CD 17,000 ufd at 30 Volts, etc. -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = No man's life, liberty, or property are

[time-nuts] OT - but of interest?

2013-04-26 Thread Bob Smither
you all the information you need to track the satellites in real time." -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = Top 10 reasons why those that love the United States should not

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680 frequency jump

2013-04-06 Thread Bob Smither
nnealing some metal springs for a project. I have no relationship with Vulcan other than being a satisfied customer. -- = Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. "Every election

Re: [time-nuts] Power Grid Time and Frequency

2012-12-06 Thread Bob Smither
On 12/06/2012 08:04 AM, Jim Lux wrote: > On 12/6/12 4:42 AM, Bob Smither wrote: >> On 12/05/2012 02:32 PM, M. Simon wrote: >>> Do you have a link for the nifty site? >> >> This one is not just for the west coast, but has good reporting of grid >> conditions

Re: [time-nuts] Power Grid Time and Frequency

2012-12-06 Thread Bob Smither
ple Events tab has links to movies of the grid frequency during major storms and an east coast earthquake. -- Bob Smither, Ph.D. smit...@c-c-i.com <>___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

[time-nuts] Year 2000?

2012-11-20 Thread Bob Smither
Anyone notice this?: https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?n&storyid=14548 Seems a Navy NTP server claimed it was year 2000 for a while. <>___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] Confused about Rubidium oscillators

2012-11-15 Thread Bob Smither
On 11/14/2012 10:56 AM, Bob Smither wrote: > Do Rb oscillators wear out? I have found: Thanks for all the good information! I am running my FE-5680a 24/7, and, as suggested, have a couple of backups. At my age I should be set for life! One last question: what category of lamps do

[time-nuts] Confused about Rubidium oscillators

2012-11-14 Thread Bob Smither
uvenating Rb oscillators on this list, so I suspect Clint is correct. Whose right? As a time-nut, do you leave your Rb oscillators on 24/7? Thanks, -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc.

Re: [time-nuts] Reducing lab noise with LED lighting.

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Smither
Has anyone tried the fluorescent replacement LED tubes? Apparently you remove the ballast from the fixture and power the tube from the 120V AC line. Any chance these would reduce the noise in a lab from conventional fluorescent tubes? Thanks. <>___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Re; New Wrist watch

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Smither
t be redundant for time nuts! I have an NTP client on my Android and it shows the network time (Sprint in my case) is often as much as 2 seconds behind UTC. Anyone else noticed this? Best regards, -- ==========

Re: [time-nuts] 60 Hz line quirks, anybody recognize this stuff?

2012-09-03 Thread Bob Smither
On 09/03/2012 12:00 PM, Graham / KE9H wrote: > On 9/1/2012 1:35 AM, Hal Murray wrote: >> The context is using the 60 Hz line for timing. >> >> I'm feeding 60 Hz from a wall wart transformer into a modem control signal >> that the kernel PPS stuff watches. Mostly, it works as expected, but >> occas

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Bob Smither
ing a 50 ohm line the initial edge from the gate is about 4V - which implies a Zo of about 13 ohms. A 50 ohm buffer with 4 gates would therefore use 187 ohms series resistors. There is an app note attached here that discusses this: http://c-c-i.com/node/107 --

Re: [time-nuts] Rigol scopes

2012-04-18 Thread Bob Smither
On 04/17/2012 06:38 AM, Robert Atkinson wrote: > I quite like the HP 546xx series 'scopes. An "analog like" interface but good > DSO facilities. My regular 'scope at home is a 54645D mixed signal. Ideal for > lower speed logic/anlog circuits and 8 bit PICs. Takes up a lot less space > than a 16500x

[time-nuts] OFF TOPIC - looking for a local ham operator ...

2012-04-16 Thread Bob Smither
Fellow Nutters, A friend of mine (not on this list) wants to revive his interest in ham radio. He lives in Friendswood, Texas (zip: 77546). If you would be willing to help him get re-started in the hobby, please reply to me off list and I will get you together with him. Thanks! -- Bob Smither

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Smither
WarrenS wrote: > Bob > > Worked great for my long zip file, and a large. jpg > Thanks very easy to use, this will be very helpful to me. > still a little problem, It would NOT take my short .gif file unless I > falsely renamed it with a .jpg extension Thanks Warren! Should be

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Smither
missing something? Thanks, -- ========= Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. America - born free, taxed to death ... smit...@c-c-i.com http://www.C-C-I.Com

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: > After some changes, I was able to upload a 30 MB file with no problem. I will > try a larger one later today. I just uploaded a 119 MB file - so the exchange page http://www.c-c-i.com/exchange/ seems to be working. -- Bob Smither

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Smither
able to upload a 30 MB file with no problem. I will try a larger one later today. Hopefully it is working again. Sorry for the false start. -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. What

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Smither
and tgz, among others, >> are supported. >> >> I would ask that after you have made a file available for a reasonable >> time that you go to the page and delete it. If you only want to make >> the file available to one person, ask them to delete it after they >> do

Re: [time-nuts] How best to exchange Large files?

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Smither
ey download it. If a file remains there more than a few weeks I may delete it. Best regards, -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = "If you want peace, work

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Manual - dated November 2002 - improved

2012-02-04 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: > Thanks Rob Kimberley! And now thanks to fellow time-nut Louie Mamakos there is a copy that is search able. Here is how he did it: "Just for grins, I ran your PDF file through Adobe Acrobat to OCR it (and clean it up slightly). The image is still there, but the OC

[time-nuts] FE-5680A Manual - dated November 2002

2012-02-03 Thread Bob Smither
Thanks Rob Kimberley! The manual that Rob found (Technical Manual TM 5680-0211) is available here: http://c-c-i.com/node/166 Best regards, -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc

Re: [time-nuts] GHz output from fe5680a

2012-01-31 Thread Bob Smither
url tf.nist.gov redirects to: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/ Maybe that one will work? -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = Blessed is he who expects no gratitude, for he shall no

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A tear down on Youtube

2012-01-18 Thread Bob Smither
heater." See also http://c-c-i.com/node/165 for an application note that has a pretty good discussion of this. -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = Friendly r

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Mechanical Question

2012-01-12 Thread Bob Smither
J. L. Trantham wrote: > Bob, > > You (and others) make a good point. The stability of a good Rb may be such > that, in a portable operation, if you are going to be there for less than 2 > weeks, why bother with the GPSDRbO option. Turn it on, adjust it to your > GPSDO at home, turn it off, take

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A arrived

2012-01-11 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: > I have noticed the the 1pps pulse goes away when I make a large change to the > offset count through the RS232 connection. The pulse comes back after the > unit > has settled for a while. More observations. My unit is S/N 0316 61953, UN 63983. If I try t

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A arrived

2012-01-11 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: > Joseph Gray wrote: >> I'm not seeing a PPS on either of these. All I see is about 17 mV P-P >> of noise that looks like a multi-stepped sine wave. I'm using a TDS >> 340 scope. > > I can see the 1 usec, 1pps on mine, but only if I use a

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A arrived

2012-01-11 Thread Bob Smither
Joseph Gray wrote: > I'm not seeing a PPS on either of these. All I see is about 17 mV P-P > of noise that looks like a multi-stepped sine wave. I'm using a TDS > 340 scope. I can see the 1 usec, 1pps on mine, but only if I use an analog storage scope. Although my HP54000 series scope triggers at

Re: [time-nuts] Thermal insulation choice?

2012-01-06 Thread Bob Smither
case temperature should be I am hesitant to try this. Maybe if I get a spare ... -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who d

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for 'Bay FE-5680A?

2012-01-06 Thread Bob Smither
fe5680 rest on a small > aluminum plate. Have you measured the case temperature of your FE5680? I put mine on a heat sink and the case temperature stays around 50C. Without the heat sink it was around 60C. Does anyone know what temperature is recommended? The 50C seems

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for 'Bay FE-5680A?

2012-01-05 Thread Bob Smither
N 2: GROUND PIN 3: LOCK/UNLOCK (high = unlock) PIN 4: INPUT +5V PIN 5: GROUND PIN 7: OUTPUT ( 10MHz sinewave ) Pin 6 has a (weak) 1pps. Pins 8 and 9 are for the RS232 interface. - -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts,

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Results so far

2011-12-28 Thread Bob Smither
ld be accurate to sub nsec. Of course, the FE-5680A could be used as the counter timebase :-). On 12/28/2011 10:45 AM, Bob Smither wrote: Chris Albertson wrote: Just got my fe5680 yesterday. Seems to work but the fe5680 is the most accurate reference I have. So how to test it? I plan to

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Results so far

2011-12-28 Thread Bob Smither
http://c-c-i.com/image/tid/4 Most recent: http://c-c-i.com/node/159 Hope this helps. -- ======== Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. "Patriotism is supporting your country all the

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Rb Questions

2011-12-15 Thread Bob Smither
Chris Albertson wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: 1. Will it work on 12 volts instead of 15? My bet is "no" as there is an internal regulator that likely needs headroom 2. Is the serial i/o really RS-232 or something else There is a Max rs232 lev

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
Tom Curlee wrote: Check the Scientific American Amateur Scientist index for clocks here: http://amasci.com/amateur/sciamdx.html#52-CC It looks like the September 1974 issue has the article on using discrete cmos logic to synchronize a pendulum clock to a quartz crystal. The article is here:

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
//cutecom.sourceforge.net/ -- ========= Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people. -- Bill Clinton, President of the United States smit...@c-c-i.comhttp://www.C-C-I.Co

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
alex mclaggan wrote: Like many of you, I have seen these advertised on Ebay at good prices. Also, like many of you, I am confused about the 'programmability' and connections. Many of them advertise these connections:- PIN 1: INPUT +15V to +18V PIN 2: GROUND PIN 3: LOCK/UNLOCK (high = unlock)

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you dig into the circuit, the resolution of the DDS is indeed 7x10^-13 per LSB. Bob Thanks for the confirmation. On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Bob Smither wrote: Bob Smither wrote: My documentation states that the full range of adjustment is: 7f ff ff ff

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: My documentation states that the full range of adjustment is: 7f ff ff ff => +383 Hz 80 00 00 00 => -383 Hz This scale factor is clearly wrong - using it and applying an appropriate correction changes the frequency way too much. From: http://article.gma

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: The price seems reasonable, esp. with free shipping. Does anyone have experience with these? Is the circuit board included? I could not resist at < $40.00 delivered. Mine has been running for a couple of weeks, but my measurements h

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-08 Thread Bob Smither
. -- = Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. I've come to realize that protecting freedom of choice in our everyday lives is essential to maintaining a healthy civil society. -- George McGovern smit...@c-c-i.comhttp://www.C-C-

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-08 Thread Bob Smither
regards, -- ========= Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. America - born free, taxed to death ... smit...@c-c-i.com http://www.C-C-I.Com 281-331-274

Re: [time-nuts] Using GPS 1PPS for accurate period measurement

2011-12-02 Thread Bob Smither
, and therefor the signal out of the Ref Tek has the stated jitter. Of course, for the application intended, 2 usec of jitter is not significant. I am using this 1 PPS to monitor a precise crystal oscillator, but I have to do some serious averaging. -- Bob Smither, PhD

Re: [time-nuts] PicPlot GPIB to RS-232

2011-11-14 Thread Bob Smither
John Miles wrote: -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts- boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Smither Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:01 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] PicPlot GPIB to RS-232 Hi List, Does

[time-nuts] PicPlot GPIB to RS-232

2011-11-13 Thread Bob Smither
Hi List, Does anyone have experience with this GPIB to RS-232 converter: http://www.webalice.it/hotwater/PicPlot.htm Thanks, -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. = If you

Re: [time-nuts] OT: In search of strange transistor data

2011-10-28 Thread Bob Smither
Ulrich Bangert wrote: Fellow time nuts, does anyone of you have available the specs of one of the the following transistors? 1) PT5744 2) ENI5744 3) TRW201 Is this what you need: http://www.electronicsurplus.com/item/131847/ I could not find any specs. Hope this helps. <>___

Re: [time-nuts] HP5370B - Err 02

2011-10-26 Thread Bob Smither
Dave M wrote: You can download a searchable manual for your 5370B from http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=HP_Agilent. It's a rather large download, but it's a good scan with searchable text. David Excellent - thanks David. <>___ time-nu

Re: [time-nuts] HP5370B - Err 02

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Smither
r the 5370 are not hard to find. From a service manual I found: 3-22. Error messages Error 2 - Data out of range (overrange). I have a service manual, but could not find the errors listing in it (it is a scan, not searchable). Thanks to all who identified the error for me. -- Bob Sm

[time-nuts] HP5370B - Err 02

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Smither
, but then show the error message. A Reset returns it to normal operaion. I could not find a list of the error codes in the manuals that I have. Does anyone know what my 5370B is trying to tell me? Thanks! -- Bob Smither, Ph.D. - Linux User 281-331-2744; fax:-4616 smit...

Re: [time-nuts] Speedy neutrino puzzle solved

2011-10-15 Thread Bob Smither
agination and pablum. http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2685 and the original one in a more readable form: http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Conc

Re: [time-nuts] 2 (Spoofing)

2011-10-05 Thread Bob Smither
. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network -- Bob Smither, Ph.D. smit...@c-c-i.com == "The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppr

Re: [time-nuts] Question about an HP5370B TIC

2011-10-01 Thread Bob Smither
orting out one of the counter bits with a screwdriver or clip lead for a fraction of a second.) :-). I actually have a SPDT switch that I can move one of the counter decode taps with and slew the edge with some control. Thanks! -- Bob Smither, PhD

Re: [time-nuts] Question about an HP5370B TIC

2011-10-01 Thread Bob Smither
avior I observed is in fact normal and my 5370B is OK? Best regards, -- =========== Bob Smither, PhDb...@smither.

[time-nuts] Question about an HP5370B TIC

2011-09-29 Thread Bob Smither
uot;inside" (or short time interval) between the pulse pair. Is this normal behavior? Is there a setup that I am missing to make it do what I want? Thanks for any insight you might give me! Best regards, -- Bob Smither, Ph.D.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065a failure of Rb oscillator problem solved

2011-09-27 Thread Bob Smither
I put Paul's document (as a PDF) here: http://c-c-i.com/node/152 Enjoy! -- ======= Bob Smither, Ph.D.smit...@c-c-i.com "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms" --Thomas

Re: [time-nuts] Insulation - was: OCXO and Aging

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Smither
ing capability is limited. Within the precision (~10E-8) that I have I could not see any difference in the oscillator frequency. Thanks, Bob Smither <>___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] A HP738BR experience - Was: HP quality... a HP5065A experience

2011-09-10 Thread Bob Smither
g the vacuum tube half. The other part of the instrument, in a separate compartment, has a precision 40 step attenuator with a 10^6 / 1 range (300 Volts to 300 uVolts) which I will certainly keep. Best regards, -- ===== Bob Smither,