[time-nuts] OT: Timer-counter wanted

2009-06-06 Thread neon John
Hey guys, I'm looking for a counter/timer for my lab. I don't need anything of Time Nuts grade, just a general purpose counter. I don't do sleazebay plus I'd rather pass a few bux to a fellow time nutter. So if you have a spare one of fairly recent vintage, preferably not containing a cooling f

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Leap Log

2008-12-31 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:06:02 +1300, "Steve Rooke" wrote: >2009/1/1 Mark Sims : >> >> Note that there is an error in the first column heading in Lady Heather's >> Leap Log. It says UTC... should be GPS. The three line hour timestamp >> comment is correct (UTC). The distributed version of the

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD 7 ntp server

2008-12-31 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:57:33 -0700 (MST), "M. Warner Losh" wrote: >In message: >"Robert Darlington" writes: >: Okay, not very fun. I was hoping to see ...58,59,60,00. Instead my >: system ticked :59 twice.Here's the output of my not so very >: scientific logs (up arrow, enter,

[time-nuts] OT: Forum <--> email gateway/bridge

2008-12-24 Thread Neon John
this is completely off-topic (so please reply via direct email) but since this is the greatest brain trust on the internet, I thought I'd risk asking the question. I can't stand web forums. My loathing goes beyond hatred. Even worse now that I'm stuck back on dial-up again. Unfortunately there

Re: [time-nuts] How are you going to spend your extra second?

2008-12-24 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:17:07 +, Mark Sims wrote: > >Well, the lords of time have blessed us this year with a whole extra second >of existence. How are you going to use yours? Dunno. Let me think about it for a sec. ooops... Merry Christmas all John -- John De Armond See my website for

Re: [time-nuts] He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....

2008-12-23 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:27:28 +0100, Magnus Danielson wrote: >David M. Witten II skrev: >> Points of pride, I'm sure. > >All this talk still does not make me feel like going out and get a >firearm of any sort, fashinating as they can be in their own right. > >If someone got me involved in elk-hun

Re: [time-nuts] He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....

2008-12-22 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:36:57 +1300, Bruce Griffiths wrote: >Chuck > >It was a paper written around 1942 detailing the procedures used to >align the sights of mass produced rifles for which it was impractical to >have each rifle individually adjusted on a firing range. >Unfortunately I dont think

Re: [time-nuts] V standards

2008-12-11 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:27:34 -0500, "Mike Monett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This discussion of voltage standards is very informative and useful, and my >thanks to all who are contributing. > >It is clear why precise frequency standards are needed - there are >innumerable applications such as GP

Re: [time-nuts] Voltage Standards

2008-12-11 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:32:23 -0600, Brian Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maybe we should consider coming up with a standard voltage reference as >a TAPR project. We have a lot of good brainpower out here and it seems >a lot of experience available. I think that this is a spectacular idea.

Re: [time-nuts] Voltage standards

2008-12-11 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:27:54 -0700 (MST), "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The thing that got me was the word 'really' in Bruce's statement. It >read like someone who had tried it, had limited success, but in the >end wound up believing that while possible, it wasn't really >practical

Re: [time-nuts] US Shipping Was huntron tracker advice

2008-12-11 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:55:26 +1300, "Steve Rooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hmmm... International Traffic in Arms Regulations, well I don't like >to poke holes in that excuse but unless the US customs are REALLY >paranoid, I can't see how most of the items I have tried to purchase >would be cove

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz over optical fiber?

2008-12-05 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:33:25 -0800, "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes. I know of several commecial systems. If you only need to do a short >> jump, then using fairly basic E/O-O/E equipment should work well >> enought. It all depends if you want/can to roll your own or need to buy

Re: [time-nuts] position determination over short distance

2008-12-05 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:26:52 -0800, "Lux, James P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There's a fair amount of F/OSS software from JPL available to do this sort of >calibration. It's used to calibrate cameras used on Mars rovers, among other >things. The target pattern for calibration is a bunch of big

Re: [time-nuts] Oh the horror

2008-11-19 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:01:23 -0800, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> It looks like the entire shipping case has been dropped or turned over >> from a reasonable height. The 7mm thick internal glass cylinder has >> been shattered and inside that the glass bulb has

Re: [time-nuts] Oh the horror

2008-11-19 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:03:15 +0100, Björn Gabrielsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On a much smaller scale... but the "incident" shown in the attached >picture was no fun either... two old BVAs came the standard (brutal) >post service packed like in the picture. Do y'all have UPS down there? Tha

Re: [time-nuts] What's all this about violins in the streets?

2008-11-19 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:27:10 -0600, "Bill Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My apologies, but I didn't think you'd want to hear about jumps. > >My good friend, and software genius, was late for a lunch appointment >today. The "atomic" alarm clock that he has used for years was 3.3 >hours behind

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-09 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:19:39 +0100, "David C. Partridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Following the good advice I received about increasing the value of the >trimmer capacitor, I replaced the trimmer which was originally 3-12pF, with >another one which was 2-22pF. I would leave the same trimmer in

Re: [time-nuts] VNG sound files

2008-09-08 Thread Neon John
Likewise, thanks. Are you going to be able to post any of the other files? I'd love to hear #7 and #8. Thanks again, John On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:20:21 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi Jim, > Many thanks for making the recordings available, it brought back a > fond memory, I mus

Re: [time-nuts] Help with HP 8640B generator

2008-09-07 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:40:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Sokolov) wrote: >Neon John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'd have put a head in each cube >> if that had been possible. > >What kind of head? Or whose head? Navy-speak for "toilet".

Re: [time-nuts] Help with HP 8640B generator

2008-09-06 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 07:09:33 -0400, "Bob Paddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The cubicle? > >Anti-Productivity Pods: Cubicles as Dilbert so astutely noted. > >"For my money the most important work on software productivity in the >last 20 years > is DeMarco and Lister's Peopleware (1987 Dorset Ho

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-27 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:55:42 -0400, Mike Naruta AA8K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Wife: Maybe he really IS your best friend. :) Probably so. Actually I had a great marriage for 25 of the 27 years. Then menopause hit with a vengeance. I sure am glad I'm an outie instead of an innie. I'd not

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-26 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:17:06 -0700, "Chris Kuethe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Might wanna keep an eye on the DVD's. I hear the dyes aren't quite as >stable and long-lived as the manufacturers claim. I've heard rumors of >discs being stored undisturbed in safety-deposit boxes for 5yrs >starting t

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-26 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:04:07 -0400, "phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"tell me what risk I'm exposed to" >An angry wife ! She and my (former) best friend ran away about 5 years ago. Thankfully. :-) John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com ht

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-26 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:34:11 +, Mark Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Pointless overkill? Ask those people in New Orleans what happens when >originals and backups are kept in the same city. I know of several (ex) >businesses that wisely kept their backups in different buildings there...

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-25 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:30:33 +, Mark Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Any backup that is stored in the same city as the original (some would say >within 100 miles of the city) is NOT a backup. It is just a disk waiting for >a (real) disaster. No fire proof safe, baggie, etc is a substi

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-25 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:35 -0400, "Bruce Lanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In regard to the below info, I downloaded xxclone and it does appear to be >the type of backup program that I have been looking for, BUT I can not get >my C: drive to come up in the source or the target window. I am

Re: [time-nuts] I now have a clock accurate to 10E-6!!!

2008-08-25 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:40:14 +1000, "Jim Palfreyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Well I've had the best weekend since I've just acquired a pendulum clock >that used to be a telecommunication time standard in the 50s. Nice. I'd love to have a photo of that with both the clock and th

Re: [time-nuts] While we're discussing backups...

2008-08-24 Thread Neon John
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:47:12 -0500, Robert Vassar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I backup to a USB hard disk. I plug it in, backup, unplug it, de- >cable and park it in a filing cabinet. The disk spends 99.99% of >it's life powered off. It should last a decade or more like this, >but I buy a

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-07-28 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:35:53 -0700, Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Seems to me that all the solutions proposed so far are a bit complex, trying >>to go for the 32khz frequency when that's not necessary. The quartz analog >>clockworks has a one or two winding stepper motor. The SIMPLEST so

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-07-28 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:22:08 -0700, Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 03:01 PM 7/23/2008, Mike S wrote: >>You're missing the point. The application is to drive a common, readily >>available consumer clock. Simple and cheap. It can be done with a >>single $1 PIC. You could spend $20 or $100 a

[time-nuts] soldering (was cesium clock)

2008-06-28 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:57:51 +1000, Neville Michie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 28/06/2008, at 1:14 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: >> >> >> Stainless is trickier to solder than constantan. >> Welding may be preferable. >> >> >> >A hint for soft soldering stainless steel, iron, nickel, chromium,

Re: [time-nuts] Thoughts on IR thermometers?

2008-05-27 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:31:49 -0400, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hey Everybody > >I tried to use a cheap IR thermometer to do some quick, pre-circuit >analysis tests, a couple of years ago on a particular job. > >It went bad, the laser did not even line up with the area being >measured, I

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Please don't use the "Spam" button to unsubscribe

2008-05-14 Thread Neon John
old ones still forward to my current one which isn't the one that I use on this list. John On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:22:57 -0400, John Ackermann N8UR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Neon John wrote: > >> Wouldn't that be kind of a good thing? I mean, can the intersection

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Please don't use the "Spam" button to unsubscribe

2008-05-13 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:43:06 -0400, John Ackermann N8UR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If this happens too often, AOL will think I'm a bad guy and ban my >domain from sending email to *anyone* at AOL. Getting them to back off >from this is a major pain in the *** (I know, I've been through it).

Re: [time-nuts] Favorite DC power Supply?

2008-05-02 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 03 May 2008 08:58:58 +0930, Matthew Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am building two GPS-driven devices, an NTP server based on an ancient >single board computer and a Nixie clock. Our power here is not what one >might call reliable - we are stuck on a spur of a very long 19kV, singl

Re: [time-nuts] Favorite DC power Supply?

2008-05-02 Thread Neon John
On Fri, 02 May 2008 22:24:11 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >What would one use 5Vdc @ 100A supplies for these days? I found 2 HP units in >the garage last weekend. Set each one to 6 volts, hook 'em in series and use 'em to run big 12 volt loads. I ran a homemade true uninterruptible power s

Re: [time-nuts] sub cables

2008-05-01 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:13:48 +0100, "Alan Melia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At least with the optical cables it is only the powerfeed circuit that gets >the surge not the amplifier front end as it was in the FDM systems. > >I always thought the terminal equipment was a slighly lower reliability >

[time-nuts] Match Stick Clock

2008-04-20 Thread Neon John
One of the coolest art clocks I've seen in awhile http://www.christiaanpostma.nl/ Flash animation of it working here: http://technabob.com/blog/2008/04/19/word-clock-slowly-reveals-the-time-with-text/ John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com h

Re: [time-nuts] GOES time service

2008-04-10 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:57:17 -0700, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are there any legitimate concerns? Or even semi-legitimate? > Back in the mid-80s I managed a software development group for a Fortune 500 company. We were located in a high rise in Atlanta. The development lab was on

[time-nuts] Trinity Timing - How far we've come

2008-03-12 Thread Neon John
In this paper http://www.sciencemadness.org/lanl1_a/lib-www/la-pubs/00350316.pdf you can read the detailed description (including schematics) of the high accuracy timing system built to control the Manhattan Project's Trinity test - the first nuclear device explosion. This is an absolutely fasc

Re: [time-nuts] Stuff I bought

2007-12-27 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:55:27 + (GMT), Robert Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > my holiday gift this year was a Sony PRS-505 Reader. > > http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=16184 > This is not as off-

Re: [time-nuts] Stuff I bought

2007-12-27 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:30:05 -0800, Jeff Mock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Smart Tweezers >http://www.advancedevices.com/ > >It's an RLC meter packaged in a pair of tweezers. It's accurate and >fast, feels good to use on the bench. When working with SMT parts, >particularly capacitors that typ

Re: [time-nuts] AC reference voltage

2007-12-27 Thread Neon John
Generating the AC isn't a problem. For 60 hz, a variac is fine. For higher frequencies, an audio transformer, for example, a plate transformer, and a signal generator will do the job. You don't need any power since a DVM has a high input impedance. You only need the voltage with enough drive

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Hewlett Packard paint codes

2007-12-27 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:35:26 -0500, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am missing the original post, hopefully I am on topic.. > >I color match quite a bit. I refurbish lab instruments. I have a piece >of glass over top of my scanner platten. I mix the paint right on the >scanner and evaluate

Re: [time-nuts] Ronald Held's main question

2007-12-18 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:29 -0800, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It was probably in the late 70s that a friend showed me a small booklet from >NBS. > >It was describing how to use TV signals to calibrate your local clock. I >think NBC and HP cooperated. > >I think the story was that N

Re: [time-nuts] Antennas in apartments

2007-12-17 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:43:41 -0500, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Neon John wrote: >> Federal law says that landlords cannot prohibit satellite TV dishes. Another >> one of >> those "best laws money can buy". The implication for a solution to the

Re: [time-nuts] Antennas in apartments

2007-12-17 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:57:49 -0800, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Talk to your building superintendent. Offer to provide NTP service to the >whole complex if he will help you setup a GPS antenna. I can see it now. "Duh, how's this NTP stuff gonna help me unstop the toilet in 23?"

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig tutorial

2007-12-14 Thread Neon John
> Dave Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> URL truncation messing things up, Didier- mainly as its 'new lining' >> (here, anyway) at the end of 'Jan', and its not obvious there's a >> space between 'Jan' and '2007'. >> Took me a few tries to get that one right! >> Tks for posting the file.

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig elected President of IEEE

2007-12-10 Thread Neon John
May be a dumb question but why don't you just export the slides to bitmap graphics or to a PDF? I rarely give presentations anymore but that's the approach I've always taken, especially if I'm going to have to use other hardware. A series of TIFFs or JPGs and the free Irfanview which will run

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig elected President of IEEE

2007-12-10 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:36:19 -0500, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >> >>> Right click and SaveAs this 7.4 MB PPT file to your PC: >>> >>> Quartz Resonator & Oscillator Tutorial >>> http://www.ieee-uffc.or

Re: [time-nuts] Watches - the china connection

2007-12-04 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:01:29 -0500, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Bill, > >I guess it depends on what you think it is that the market is >desiring. > >There is little or no apparent interest in a newly manufactured >Bulova Accutron Spaceview watch. Modern Quartz watches have >long s

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-04 Thread Neon John
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:06:01 -0500, "Daun Yeagley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've wanted to experiment with that, but I need to come >up with another Accutron, as I don't want to ruin the Spaceview that I got from >my wife on our first Christmas way back in '67! Know any reasonable sources? T

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:41:21 -0500, Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There was no reference to a 6 bit scope. First paragraph of the original post: Joe McElvenney wrote: > Hi, > > Excuse the topic but is does push th

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:52:13 -0500, Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The problem with a mercury relay is that the switching delay is significant >and not well controlled, so the duty cycle of the resulting waveform is n

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:57:27 +, Joe McElvenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyone know of a simple way of producing an AC voltage standard >suitable for general workshop use without reference to another >one? About one perc

Re: [time-nuts] EFC Input pin impedance for the HP 10544A and10811-6011

2007-10-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:08:11 +1300, Bruce Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The opposite effect is sometimes desirable to force a browser to display >an image (usually a JPEG) to display on whatever resolution screen is in

Re: [time-nuts] QCM

2007-10-25 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:04:06 +0200, Jeroen Bastemeijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear Ulrich, > >You question is not as much off-topic as you might think. It is all >about frequency stability and resonators ;-) In the past

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Need HP 7475A Drivers for XP or Linux

2007-10-21 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:41:16 -0600, "Joseph Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Now I just need pens and paper...(I have one offer for this, more sources >> are welcome) >> >> Thanks to all, >> >> Eric > >I know that HP stopped

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Need HP 7475A Drivers for XP or Linux

2007-10-21 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:41:30 -0700, "Eric Fort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > >I really appreciate the Detailed reply, Thanks. Your web page has an error >

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Need HP 7475A Drivers for XP or Linux

2007-10-20 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:57:27 -0700, "Eric Fort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There seems to be a wealth of knowlege here about keeping older HP hardware >running. Would anyone in this group have experience using a 7475A plotter

Re: [time-nuts] Improving the stability of crystal oscillators

2007-10-13 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Nah, not for this application. A Peltier module typically has a COP of 1. That is, it moves a watt of energy for each watt consumed. Thus, for each watt moved, two watts have to be dissipated to air. I can't imagine a wel

Re: [time-nuts] HP 523B frequency counter & Sputnik

2007-10-04 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:27:40 -0700, "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A little known piece of Sputnik history... > > http://www.hparchive.com/Journals/HPJ-1957-09-Sputnik.pdf Deja Vue. Happened upon this not an ho

Re: [time-nuts] Bush Accepts Pentagon Position on GPS

2007-09-20 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:48:51 -0500, "Bill Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > >Yes, this is way off topic, unless you consider the passage of time. > >Wh

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:44:56 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi John, > >ok, I guess my comment about 600dpi PDF files being sufficient for the job >is not resonating here. Case in point: > >At a previous employer, our boss

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:45:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >respectfully disagree: that would mean we should get out our good-old >pen-plotters and vector-graphics displays as well? My E-size HP pen plotter is still worki

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:28:01 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:06:22 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >writes: > >>PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:02:59 -, "Jean-Louis Oneto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >); SAEximRunCond expanded to false >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > >Hello all, >I succeeded to read it with Corel PaintShopPro XI and then

Re: [time-nuts] EMI from florescent lights

2007-08-10 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I've converted my entire house to CFLs. I have probably half a dozen radio-controlled clocks. No problem with them. No problem with operating my GPS receiver indoors either. The only thing that bothers my radio-controlled c

Re: [time-nuts] R: Info on HP 10514A and 10534A mixers?

2007-07-30 Thread Neon John
it to the top of my priority heap. Otherwise I'll do it when I get a round tuit. John On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:13:11 -0500, Brian Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We'll, I regret that I have sent some technical information to a person >on the time nuts list. I was suppose to

[time-nuts] Slick Flash clock

2007-06-21 Thread Neon John
Very slick. http://blog.pixelbreaker.com/upload/polarclockv2/RingClock.swf -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net! Cleveland, Occupied TN *fas-cism* (fash'iz'em) n. A system of government

Re: [time-nuts] My Casio G-Shock watch and other fun stuff

2007-06-21 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:57:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Shoppa) wrote: >Neon John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't quite understand why they'd all run so close during the day after a >> sync but drift so fast if a sync was missed. > >In a typical

Re: [time-nuts] My Casio G-Shock watch and other fun stuff

2007-06-21 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:04:49 +1000, "Palfreyman, Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John, > >My watch is one of these: > >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120108656745 > >(Casio module 3050) > >I was wondering whether it was good design on Casios part - i.e. >discipline the os

Re: [time-nuts] My Casio G-Shock watch and other fun stuff

2007-06-20 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:00:02 +1000, "Palfreyman, Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I reported the unusual accuracy of my Casio G-Schock radio controlled >watch (with the radio controlled feature turned off) a month or so back. > >Well to back up my rough observations I decided to measure it prope

Re: [time-nuts] IEEE papers

2007-06-15 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:14:34 -0700 (PDT), Colin Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have also experienced the frustration of trying to download IEEE papers. I >am a member of IEEE along with two of their affiliated societies and still get >the same run-around. There are two techniques that I

Re: [time-nuts] H-Maser, but not on ebait...

2007-06-10 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:18:44 -0600, Scott Lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I see it comes with manuals; does it also include the physicist? >> (I've heard that, in the early days at least, that each maser >> required one full-time physicist to keep it running ;-) Hi Scott, Just dropping a note

Re: [time-nuts] another Ebay mixup

2007-06-09 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:27:29 -0400, "Norman J McSweyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Apropos the conversation: >Techrecovery sold me a 5370a that was toast. The customer service guy gave >me a runaround for six weeks trying to first get another instrument and >after I gave that up as a lost cause,

Re: [time-nuts] FW: Pendulums & Atomic Clocks & Gravity

2007-05-30 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 30 May 2007 01:10:02 -0800, Bill Beam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Gentlemen: Those of you who have never taken a university physics course >are excused for confusion over centripital/centrifugal/psudo forces. Some of >you who did take a university physics class spent too much time aslee

Re: [time-nuts] FW: Pendulums & Atomic Clocks & Gravity

2007-05-29 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 29 May 2007 20:35:21 -0400, Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Thanks a lot again. > >I had no idea time-nuts would drive me to brush-up on physics :-) yeah. Only problem is, I think my brain exploded a few messages back in this thread! I think I liked pre-Einstein physics a lot

[time-nuts] HP manual alert

2007-05-19 Thread Neon John
This is for those of you who don't follow the Usenet binary groups. On alt.binaries.e-book.technical, someone has just dumped a large collection of HP/Agilent manuals, several GenRad ones and a few Flukes. Below is the list of HP manuals that I've snagged. I can make these available to anyone,

Re: [time-nuts] HP glass 1 MHz crystal

2007-05-09 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:29:58 -0400, "Daun Yeagley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I took some pictures of my 1 MHz HP glass crystal. >You can see them here: > >http://www.yeagley.net/Time-Nuts/ I just tossed up a new page on my site showing another jewel - a Western Electric AM transmitter and the j

Re: [time-nuts] Ignore My Test

2007-05-04 Thread Neon John
On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:12:31 -0700, Had <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dogs back, and all that RY RY >RY mumbo-jumbo. > Roger, ignore-o-tron set to "stun with boredom". John --- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.

Re: [time-nuts] Gentlemen, unlimber your Broadband Connections

2007-04-29 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:22:56 -0700, Brooke Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi John: > >Prior to discovering the Bookmark part of Adobe .pdf documents I used a hard >copy whenever possible. But after working with good bookmarks, a .pdf is my >preferred way to read. > >As a practical matter th

Re: [time-nuts] Gentlemen, unlimber your Broadband Connections

2007-04-29 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:32:51 -0500, Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John, > >Thanks a lot for that great reference. It's a good thing that basic >principles of physics have not changed much in the last 50 years :-) > Yes, and the main reason I like these old texts so well is that they t

Re: [time-nuts] Gentlemen, unlimber your Broadband Connections

2007-04-29 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:33:51 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Neon John wrote: >> For here is the treasure-trove for those of us who like old machines, >> fire bottles and big hunking things that glow and make noise. >> >> http:/

Re: [time-nuts] History of Quartz radio crystals

2007-04-29 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Colin Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In my wanderings, I ran across this interesting history of the quartz crystal >industry. >http://www.ieee-uffc.org/fc_history/bottom.html Very interesting. Another little tidbit not in that article. There was a

[time-nuts] Gentlemen, unlimber your Broadband Connections

2007-04-28 Thread Neon John
For here is the treasure-trove for those of us who like old machines, fire bottles and big hunking things that glow and make noise. http://www.pmillett.com/ In particular, http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm Over a gig of scanned tube manuals, textbooks, reference books, etc. Am

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay bidding question

2007-04-26 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:35:48 -0500, "Jason Rabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Some people put the maximum amount they are willing to pay and let it ride. >Others like to bid in smaller amounts (and maybe more impulse bidders). And then there are people like me who either manually snipe or use aut

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544A defective? Looking fro 10811

2007-04-22 Thread Neon John
Howard W. Ashcraft wrote: >> I have been building a GPSDO around an HP10544A that I purchased on >> eBay. After some teeth-gnashing, I have concluded that the 10544A is >> defective. When attached to a load (it is supposed to be rated into 50 >> ohms) the frequency drops radically, and in fact, t

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Knifephoolery

2007-04-21 Thread Neon John
I love this list! What we find to talk about. Until about this time last year when I closed the last one, for 11 years I owned and operated a pair of BBQ & steak restaurants and a catering service. For much of that time I was the chief cook and bottle washer :-) Believe it or not I like to cook

Re: [time-nuts] How good are mechanical watches

2007-04-21 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:37:10 -0700, "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That's how I measured the performance of a WWVB radio >controlled watch: > >http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/Junghans/ > >This is a great example of "sawtooth" that you probably >haven't seen before. Hey, that's a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery

2007-04-20 Thread Neon John
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:55:16 -0400, John Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The day I told him I played a trick on him. I invited him around to >hear my system. In those days a pair of home-brewed Klipsch >look-alikes. He raved, until he saw that the amp wasn't the big >glowing thing on the bench

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery

2007-04-20 Thread Neon John
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:48:54 -0400, "Daun Yeagley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is as crazy as it gets. I have seen the high end power cables >before and consider this the ultimate in audiophoolishness ... I'm not >sure this is the most expensive example, but it surely establishes that >ther

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery

2007-04-19 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:21:28 -0700, "Bruce Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 > > I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) That's absurd but if you want to delve into the tin-foil hat areas, google for "speaker cabl

Re: [time-nuts] Most accurate clock on your wrist

2007-04-19 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:58:06 -0700, David Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The Casio watch is rechargeable, since the GPS function drains the >battery in two hours. Amusingly, it takes three hours to charge it, so >the GPS drain current is higher than the charger's output! > >Recharging a wris

Re: [time-nuts] Most accurate clock on your wrist

2007-04-19 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:53:42 -0700, "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've been waiting with baited breath for a GPS watch. NOT a NAVAID on >> the wrist but a simple GPS-synced watch. It would seem to me that >> making a miniature GPS receiver would be much easier than making a >> WWV

Re: [time-nuts] Most accurate clock on your wrist

2007-04-19 Thread Neon John
I've been waiting with baited breath for a GPS watch. NOT a NAVAID on the wrist but a simple GPS-synced watch. It would seem to me that making a miniature GPS receiver would be much easier than making a WWVB receiver. Unfortunately that watch ain't it. Gad, they need a good industrial designer!

Re: [time-nuts] Watts Up (was Re: Prologix GPIB/USB converter help...)

2007-04-17 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:44:31 -0700, "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>... >> If you have the capability of testing your WUPs, I'd certainly be >> interested in what you find. I'd like to think that maybe the problem >> is in just this one revision of firmware. But I suspect not. >> >>

[time-nuts] Watts Up (was Re: Prologix GPIB/USB converter help...)

2007-04-17 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:25:35 -0700, "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll give you a recent example. I have a bunch of AC power >meters in my lab (model: Watts Up PRO) that have RS232 >output and I wrote software that logs and plots the data. Ohhh, you hit on a sore spot, Tom. That P

Re: [time-nuts] Most accurate clock on your wrist

2007-04-17 Thread Neon John
Hey y'all, Interesting site but he's kinda behind the times, so to speak :-) about what modern, more pedestrian watches can do. Back around Christmas I bought a Luminox dive chronometer, model 3HMBM. This is the one with the chrono functions in the form of a little LCD screen under 12 o'clock.

Re: [time-nuts] Sensing pendulum position, speed, or height

2007-03-29 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:45:25 -0700, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >How do modern pendulum clock geeks measure what their pendulum is doing? I'm >picturing a magnet on the bottom of the pendulum and a coil or hall effect >sensor. Prowl around here http://www.hsn161.com/links.html Pa

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