Re: [time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-18 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Dear Warren and Mark, I have hacked together a very simple setup with the transistor circuit and the opened Thunderbolt case (not its own case, but the front lid of my outer case opened). The CPU fan was placed about 2" away, only blowing indirectly into the case.. The results are simply ama

[time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-16 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Dear Mark, Warren, Arnold,Bob and Charles, Thank you all for the interesting responses. I am most interested about the implemented temperature control in Lady Heather: I see that there is a setpoint to be entered via 't'+'t', but I am uncertain about the function of it. From the heather.cpp i

Re: [time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-16 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I see a degree or more over the weekend sitting on the bench. With some effort that can be brought down to a half degree or so. The real question is weather you see the "signature" of the temperature showing up in the EFC plot. To be precise do you see the signature of the lab temperature,

[time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-15 Thread Mark Sims
Using Lady Heather's temperature controller (fan+cardboard box+solid state relay+baffling and thermal mass to taste)  I get around +/- 3 millidegree temperature control when the AC/furnace is not running and +/- 20 millidegrees with them cycling.  Long term temperature average is down in the te

Re: [time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-15 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Achim wrote: I am just wondering, if I should rather worry more about high temperature gradients rather than excursions from a mean value, as slow variation can be compensated by the control loop while for quick changes, the loop is just too slow :) This has been discussed quite a bit on the

Re: [time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-15 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hi Achim, I have very stable thermal conditions in my house. The temperature indicated by the box (internal sensor) does stay stable within 50 mK/d when the sun is not shining with very slow ripple. On sunny days the in-box temperature does climb up by about 350 to 450 mK (less then 100 mK/h) and

[time-nuts] Achievable temperature stability for Thunderbolt environment?

2011-01-15 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Hi list, as my Thunderbolt is now nicely cooking for a few weeks now, I am wondering what a typically achievable ambient temperature stability/variation is in your setups. Of course, a more stable environment is better, but currently I am struggling to achieve more than +-0.5 K variation on t