Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-11-02 Thread Justin Pinnix
Update - I attempted to look at the analog signal. I looked at the output of the crystal. With the scope's low-pass filter turned on I was able to see a very weak sine wave with a period of roughly 15us. It was too weak for any analysis.

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-11-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
There's a nice set of WWVB 'scope traces here: http://leapsecond.com/pages/sony-wwvb/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-31 Thread Hal Murray
It would be interesting to know what the analogue signal looks like, as many pieces of electrical and electronic equipment can radiate significantly on those frequencies. 60 KHz, AM Modulated, low bandwidth. Google will find the details at NIST's web site. Likely sources of interference

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-31 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
In the late 70s I took a 6800 based micro I designed for Sidereal and developed CTU - Chuck's Terminal Unit, a program that ran an autostart responder on 80 meters. The computer ran 1000 non maskable interrupts per second. This powered Baudot send, receive, and distortion measurements. It also

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-31 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray [] It would be interesting to know what the analogue signal looks like, as many pieces of electrical and electronic equipment can radiate significantly on those frequencies. 60 KHz, AM Modulated, low bandwidth. Google will find the details at NIST's web site. Likely

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-31 Thread Justin Pinnix
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:54 AM, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Nuts, I recently picked up a C-Max evaluation kit from SparkFun to see if this $10 board could be used as a precision timing source. The short answer is no. The long answer is available at:

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-31 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, Thanks for pointing out the problem with the figures in my webpage. I have fixed it. I'm going to attempt to capture the analog signal by probing the QOut pin. The updated images make the effects clearer. It will be interesting to see the image capture. Good point about

[time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread Justin Pinnix
Nuts, I recently picked up a C-Max evaluation kit from SparkFun to see if this $10 board could be used as a precision timing source. The short answer is no. The long answer is available at: http://www.fuzzythinking.com/?page_id=29 . It was a fun experiment and a great excuse to play with test

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi JP: Have you tried this at midnight local time? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.End2PartyGovernment.com/ Justin Pinnix wrote: Nuts, I recently picked up a C-Max evaluation kit from SparkFun to see if this $10 board could be used as a precision timing source. The

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread KD0GLS
Justin, A while back, I did some crude experiments with the C-Max CME6005 IC which is, I believe, used in that evaluation module. If memory serves, there were some rather severe restrictions documented in either the datasheet or an application note regarding the loading on the TCO/TCON pins.

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread Chris Albertson
You can use WWVB for timing but it is not as easy as buying the kit. First you need a better antenna and then a good location for it that is away from noisy electronics.then you have to let it disincline a local clock for a while. It will not be as good as GPS and you may never get 24 hour

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread Justin Pinnix
Hi Brent, I actually saw that warning partway through the experiment. I disconnected it and didn't get any measurable difference. So, I put it back - it makes it easier to see what's going on :-) Based on several suggestions here, I think the next thing I'll try is capturing actual event

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread Hal Murray
Based on several suggestions here, I think the next thing I'll try is capturing actual event arrival times. That will allow me to plot a histogram and let the experiment run all night (and day) to take advantage of different local times. Plus it gives me an excuse to buy (or build) a

Re: [time-nuts] C-Max Receiver Experiment

2011-10-30 Thread David J Taylor
Nuts, I recently picked up a C-Max evaluation kit from SparkFun to see if this $10 board could be used as a precision timing source. The short answer is no. The long answer is available at: http://www.fuzzythinking.com/?page_id=29 . It was a fun experiment and a great excuse to play with