Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Bob Camp
HI Use these systems for navigation? What a silly idea. I’m *sure* they are mainly intend to deliver precise timing to people’s basement labs :) Bob > On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Magnus Danielson > wrote: > > You can use them as additional nav birds too. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > On 12/06

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Attila, On 12/06/2014 03:18 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:47:54 +0100 Magnus Danielson wrote: Also, GPS L2C and L5 signals is already there. AFAIK there is no satellite with L5 capabilities in space yet. There is at least 7 of them now. See this message on 18 Sep: All C

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 12:35:16 -0200 Edesio Costa e Silva wrote: > According to > the L2C and L5 signals are now available. Oh.must have missed that. Thanks! Attila Kinali -- I pity people who can't find laug

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
You can use them as additional nav birds too. Cheers, Magnus On 12/06/2014 03:09 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Recall that beyond GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO and Big Dipper (COMPASS) you also have WAAS/EGNOS and other SBAS (Satellite Based Augmentatio

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/6/14, 6:18 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:47:54 +0100 Magnus Danielson wrote: Also, GPS L2C and L5 signals is already there. AFAIK there is no satellite with L5 capabilities in space yet. Also L2C is still marked as unhealthy. Attila Kinali

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
According to the L2C and L5 signals are now available. Edésio On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 03:18:25PM +0100, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:47:54 +0100 > Magnus Danielson wrote: > > > Also, GPS L2C and L5 signals is alread

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 12:49:53 +0100 Azelio Boriani wrote: > The 2014 EFTF abstracts are available here: (55MB ZIP file) > The papers are also online, but only available to those who were at the conference. At

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:47:54 +0100 Magnus Danielson wrote: > Also, GPS L2C and L5 signals is already there. AFAIK there is no satellite with L5 capabilities in space yet. Also L2C is still marked as unhealthy. Attila Kinali -- I pity people who can't find laughter or a

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Magnus Danielson > wrote: > > Recall that beyond GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO and Big Dipper (COMPASS) you also > have WAAS/EGNOS and other SBAS (Satellite Based Augmentation Systems). > > If you open up all of them, there is a lot of signals in the air. > Also, GPS

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Recall that beyond GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO and Big Dipper (COMPASS) you also have WAAS/EGNOS and other SBAS (Satellite Based Augmentation Systems). If you open up all of them, there is a lot of signals in the air. Also, GPS L2C and L5 signals is already there. Cheers, Magnus On 12/06/2014 01:16

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 6, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 21:16:14 -0500 > Bob Camp wrote: > >> Running one locked to each system is really the only approach that makes >> sense. There inevitably are minor differences in systems and trying to >> average things out is not th

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Azelio Boriani
The 2014 EFTF abstracts are available here: (55MB ZIP file) On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 21:16:14 -0500 > Bob Camp wrote: > >> Running one locked to each system is really the only approa

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-06 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 21:16:14 -0500 Bob Camp wrote: > Running one locked to each system is really the only approach that makes > sense. There inevitably are minor differences in systems and trying to > average things out is not the best way to do it. Might or might not be. At least for GPS and Gal

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray I've seen lots of comments about units that will use other than GPS satellites, but I don't think I've seen any actual output from one of them. Is that just a gap in my toy collection or has reality not caught up with the marketing hype? (Or perhaps I just haven't looked in th

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread lincoln
Hello, One vendor we starts nimea strings with BD and GN instead of GP ie $GPGGA,blab, blab becomes $BDGGA,blab and $GNGGA,blab If all systems are selected and the receiver has enough of each system you can have up to three $*GGA messages per update. Link On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:32 PM, I

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Bob Camp
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > kb...@n1k.org said: >> Running one locked to each system is really the only approach that makes >> sense. There inevitably are minor differences in systems and trying to >> average things out is not the best way to do it. > > Anybody have

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > Running one locked to each system is really the only approach that makes > sense. There inevitably are minor differences in systems and trying to > average things out is not the best way to do it. Anybody have suggestions for a low cost receiver to run that test? -- Thes

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 5, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Iain Young wrote: > > On 05/12/14 22:40, Bob Camp wrote: > >> Typically they let you selectively enable each of the major systems. As you >> enable more systems, you get more sat’s in each of the messages. For most >> users, there is not a lot of reason to ena

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Iain Young
On 05/12/14 22:40, Bob Camp wrote: Typically they let you selectively enable each of the major systems. As you enable more systems, you get more sat’s in each of the messages. For most users, there is not a lot of reason to enable multiple systems. If you want UTC sync’d to USNO you enable on

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > he...@pericynthion.org said: >> It's a global system and modern receivers are already capable of augmenting >> GPS solutions with measurements from Galileo satellites. > > I've seen lots of comments about units that will use other than G

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Hal Murray
he...@pericynthion.org said: > It's a global system and modern receivers are already capable of augmenting > GPS solutions with measurements from Galileo satellites. I've seen lots of comments about units that will use other than GPS satellites, but I don't think I've seen any actual output from

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Hi Dick, Its available for everyone. It will be as global as GPS. But currently under a system test phase. Three working satellites, one of the first four has some problems. Whats the status of that one now? Two new launched in August experienced a faulty orbit injection. http://ec.europa.eu/e

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Henry Hallam
It's a global system and modern receivers are already capable of augmenting GPS solutions with measurements from Galileo satellites. Henry On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Richard Solomon wrote: > Dumb Question Time ... > > Is the Galileo available in North America or only for our overseas brethr

Re: [time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Richard Solomon
Dumb Question Time ... Is the Galileo available in North America or only for our overseas brethren ? Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ On 12/5/2014 8:16 AM, Edesio Costa e Silva wrote: Partial recovery of Galileo constellation:

[time-nuts] FYI: Galileo satellite recovered and transmitting navigation signals

2014-12-05 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
Partial recovery of Galileo constellation: Edésio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo