Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-10 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 06:11:22PM -0700, Jim Lux wrote: I'm not so sure about that, in general. (the access to the public, not the tax funding).. A lot of universities have put badge readers on a lot of areas that one might think are totally public access. Now, they might be wide open

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-09 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:22:41 -0700 Cliff Sojourner c...@employees.org wrote: not at all. read the summary, they are playing with group delay. And group strange group delay stuff can have very strange effects... IEEE Circuits and Systems had a 20 or so page article a couple months ago on

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-09 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 08 May 2012 01:14:01 -0700 jim s j...@jwsss.com wrote: Hal, others, There were two things that are interesting about this. There was a special about Hawkings theories and a recent turn of heart and theory he had, which hits at the center of the quantum theory involved here. I

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-09 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:16:51 -0700 jim s j...@jwsss.com wrote: Sadly the actual information is behind a paywall. BTW: Little known fact: most university libraries have site subscriptions for the most popular/relevant scientific journals. You usually can access these journals from the computers

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-09 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/9/12 11:06 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:16:51 -0700 jim sj...@jwsss.com wrote: Sadly the actual information is behind a paywall. BTW: Little known fact: most university libraries have site subscriptions for the most popular/relevant scientific journals. You usually

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-09 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 09 May 2012 18:11:22 -0700 Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm not so sure about that, in general. (the access to the public, not the tax funding).. A lot of universities have put badge readers on a lot of areas that one might think are totally public access. Now, they

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-09 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/9/12 10:04 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2012 18:11:22 -0700 Jim Luxjim...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm not so sure about that, in general. (the access to the public, not the tax funding).. A lot of universities have put badge readers on a lot of areas that one might think are

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-08 Thread jim s
Observed phenomena which verify or demonstrate this impact some theories related to how the quantum effects govern areas around black holes. Since they are only observable from their effects, and the theories about the causes of these effects are used to explain these observations, anything

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-08 Thread Hal Murray
j...@jwsss.com said: At least let someone claim that this affects climate change before you condemn it or make a comment like this. On 5/7/2012 6:38 PM, Tom Knox wrote: Yea NIST and JILA keep pushing pseudo science, and they keep on recieveing the Noble Prize in Physics for these ideas.

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-08 Thread jim s
Hal, others, There were two things that are interesting about this. There was a special about Hawkings theories and a recent turn of heart and theory he had, which hits at the center of the quantum theory involved here. The other is the current groups experience with Rb oscillators and those

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type c...@employees.org said: one more thing, people need to learn to hit the delete key if they don't like a particular email. get over it. I don't think that's a reasonable approach. Yes, of course, we should all

[time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread jim s
This is a note on a site about some experiments to transmit information faster than light. It fiddles with some definitions in the speed of light restrictions in quantum theory. the reason I am posting here is that it used Rubidium beams. The actual publications may be of interest to those

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Alan Melia
: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type This is a note on a site about some experiments to transmit information faster than light. It fiddles with some definitions in the speed of light restrictions in quantum theory. the reason I am posting here is that it used Rubidium beams

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Cliff Sojourner
.. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: jim sj...@jwsss.com To:time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type This is a note on a site about some experiments to transmit information faster than light. It fiddles with some

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Alan Melia
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type not at all. read the summary, they are playing with group delay. oh and by the way, there is some effect working with cold fusion

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Tom Knox
, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type This is a note on a site about some experiments to transmit information faster than light. It fiddles with some definitions in the speed of light restrictions in quantum theory. the reason I am posting here

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Hal Murray
c...@employees.org said: one more thing, people need to learn to hit the delete key if they don't like a particular email. get over it. I don't think that's a reasonable approach. Yes, of course, we should all be more tolerant. But that's only half the story. There is an interesting

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/7/12 8:45 PM, Hal Murray wrote: One thing that might help is if everybody would get in the habit of scanning all their mail before responding to anything. The idea is that if a discussion explodes while you are sleeping (or away from your mail for whatever reason), you will learn that a

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Mike S
On 5/7/2012 7:22 PM, Cliff Sojourner wrote: one more thing, people need to learn to hit the delete key if they don't like a particular email. I prefer to simply subscribe to low noise sources, where I'm not required to get manually intervene. get over it. Don't tell me what to do. Get

Re: [time-nuts] Faster than light of a different type

2012-05-07 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: I wonder if the nature of email and how it gets read has any effect on usenet lists. Think back to expensive dialup days.. you'd dial up, download the batch, and then hangup. So you'd go through all the mail (almost like a digest) before responding. I think