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Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:39 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
I have been leaning more toward Agilent and away from Tektronix for
this very reason.
On Fri, 1
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:07:04 -0500
Peter Gottlieb wrote:
> Do you believe there may be a problem for those who are
> reverse-engineering, and posting on the open net, items which may be
> covered under these regulations?
Not unless you live in the US. Then you are bound by the laws
of your cou
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
One thing to keep in mind is that FEI is very largely a defense
contractor, so their customers, marketing, and motivation are a bit
different than the typical business-to-business model.
John
On 2/17/2012 10:02 AM, Bill Riches wrote
: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
One thing to keep in mind is that FEI is very largely a defense
contractor, so their customers, marketing, and motivation are a bit
different than the typical business-to-business model.
John
On 2/17/2012 10:02 AM, Bill Riches wrote:
> Good poi
like that - it all will go to the
>> scrap
>> merchants and be parted out.
>> Bob
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb
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go to the scrap
> merchants and be parted out.
> Bob
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:25 AM
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Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:25 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
I am not so sure they have a lot of influence on what happens to equipment
once they sell it to an
I have been leaning more toward Agilent and away from Tektronix for
this very reason.
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:17:54 -0700, Tom Knox
wrote:
>I think that for many of us, we are both professional and hobbyist Time Nuts
>and companies that encourage the hobbyist will find it pays of when we make
>
Knox
> From: mi...@open.com.au
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:02:28 +1000
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
>
> Hmmm,
>
> Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to
> protecting their product
ginal Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:43 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
On 2/17/12 5:27 AM, paul swed wrote:
The
rap "killed" units, no one will want to reverse engineer them.
> >
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike McCauley"
> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
> > Se
I'm an EE manager and buy Agilent equipment whenever I can over other brands.
This is strongly influenced by their obsolete equipment manual policy.
On 02/17/12, Bill Riches wrote:
Good points made - no income for the company, However on the other side of
the coin - look at Agilient having
On 2/17/12 7:02 AM, Bill Riches wrote:
Good points made - no income for the company, However on the other side of
the coin - look at Agilient having available all of the old HP manuals for
download even though there is no income to them. I wonder if it was a
requirement of them to supply HP manu
they...
73,
Bill Riches, WA2DVU
Cape May, NJ
-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:43 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Co
On 2/17/12 5:27 AM, paul swed wrote:
The used market makes no difference to them. No revenue stream.
In fact I would say you are swatting at the behive. It would be wise to
leave them alone since several have reached out and already had a poor
experience.
As someone else pointed out this is what
ufacturers- hundreds of pounds of
> > working HDs destroyed on purpose on a regular basis. If they only
> > scrap "killed" units, no one will want to reverse engineer them.
> >
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > Fr
urement"
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
>
> Hmmm,
>
> Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not
> to protecting their product, but rather to the massive, public
> reverse
; units, no one will want
to reverse engineer them.
-Dave
- Original Message -
From: "Mike McCauley"
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02:28 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI
H
Hmmm,
Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to
protecting their product, but rather to the massive, public reverse
engineering of it?
On Friday, February 17, 2012 05:43:49 PM Gerald Molenkamp wrote:
> I have written to them on several occasions about 56
>
> Sen
I have written to them on several occasions about 56
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