Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Bob Stewart
then assuming both clocks are accurate enough, you can see any difference in the rate of time you are experiencing vs the other person. Bob On Fri, 5/20/16, Peter Reilley wrote: Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesi

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Bob Camp
east look at the plots at the end of: > http://leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm > http://leapsecond.com/history/1978-PTTI-v9-NTS-2.pdf > > /tvb > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Reilley" > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurem

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A GPS receiver is simply picking up the time information from the orbital system. The satellites do not change height when you move around, thus their reported time does not change either. Coming up with 20 ns from GPS involves a lot of post processing, that’s not going to play very well o

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Hal Murray
preilley_...@comcast.net said: > I have a question. I, of small brain, am wondering: if the time > difference between the top of the mountain and the bottom of the mountain is > 20 nS over 24 hours could you repeat the same experiment using GPS?The > time difference of 20 nS is measurable

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
I believe not. 20 nS is about 6 meters error in height. I would need to know the height difference much better than this to have an accurate measurement. Edésio On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:24:42AM -0400, Peter Reilley wrote: > I have a question. I, of small brain, am wondering: if the time diffe

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
plots at the end of: http://leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm http://leapsecond.com/history/1978-PTTI-v9-NTS-2.pdf /tvb - Original Message - From: "Peter Reilley" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:24 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Clint Jay
To my simple mind they'd be out but by a constant amount because they're still locked to one master clock. The discrepancy would be from the "time of flight" between the top and bottom of the mountain. Or I may have completely misunderstood. On 20 May 2016 17:01, "Peter Reilley" wrote: > I h

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Peter Reilley
I have a question. I, of small brain, am wondering: if the time difference between the top of the mountain and the bottom of the mountain is 20 nS over 24 hours could you repeat the same experiment using GPS?The time difference of 20 nS is measurable using GPS. The GPS clock must run fas

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, so *that* link got me to the episode. Very impressive stuff. Well done !!! Bob > On May 20, 2016, at 2:04 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote: > > For those of you who missed the live TV broadcast, I'm told PBS has a live > stream: > http://www.pbs.org/video/2365757267/ > > The cesium clock parts

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-20 Thread Dan Rae
I have a recording of this on my hard drive, at1.3 Gb it's too big to email but I can share it via Wetransfer if anyone wants it. I would need a recipient's email address to do this. Dan ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
For those of you who missed the live TV broadcast, I'm told PBS has a live stream: http://www.pbs.org/video/2365757267/ The cesium clock parts are in the last 15 minutes of the show. I also added more photos/plots to: http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/photos.htm /tvb _

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-19 Thread Eric Scace
For those of us who do not have TVs, pointers to an Internet source for viewing the show would be welcomed. Thanks! signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-19 Thread John Miles
Public service announcement: I just tried to stream this episode on Amazon Prime Video, and it seems they have some sort of indexing snafu going on. They offer episode 1 ("Can We Time-Travel?") and episode 2 ("Are We Alone?") for viewing, but what actually played when I selected them were two c

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-19 Thread jmfranke
Well done Tom! As always, you represented the Time-Nuts community in a most professional manner. John WA4WDL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "Bill Hawkins" writes: >Meanwhile, here I am on the third floor of a retirement community, >possibly living faster than those on the first floor. >Not that it approaches a significant fraction of a second per year; it's >the principle of the thing. Dont knock it, mathematica

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-19 Thread Rex
Friday, May 13, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV),with 5071A cesium clocks Fellow time nuts, Here in the US, a new six-part TV series on National Geographic / PBS starts next Wednesday, May 18th, 2016. The title is "Genius by Stephen Hawking" and epi

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-18 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, Tom, you did get an active part in the show, and Stephen Hawking credited your worldwide reputation. Wow. You even sounded as natural as the actors used to give emotional depth to a science story. What troubles me is that we have the instruments to detect a 20 nanosecond difference in atomi

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-18 Thread Wes
6 12:00 PM Subject: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV),with 5071A cesium clocks Fellow time nuts, Here in the US, a new six-part TV series on National Geographic / PBS starts next Wednesday, May 18th, 2016. The title is "Genius by Stephen Hawking" and episode 1 is: Can We Time

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-18 Thread Don Lewis
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV),with 5071A cesium clocks The TV show is tomorrow, Wednesday evening. 8/9 PM, or something like that. Here are fresh web pages with background information, photos, and plots: http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/ http://leapsecond.com

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-18 Thread Martin Burnicki
Hi Tom, Tom Van Baak wrote: > The TV show is tomorrow, Wednesday evening. 8/9 PM, or something like that. > > Here are fresh web pages with background information, photos, and plots: > > http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/ > > http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/photos.htm > > I have no idea how mi

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-17 Thread Tom Van Baak
day, May 13, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV),with 5071A cesium clocks Fellow time nuts, Here in the US, a new six-part TV series on National Geographic / PBS starts next Wednesday, May 18th, 2016. The title is "Genius by Stephen Hawking" and ep

[time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-13 Thread Tom Van Baak
Fellow time nuts, Here in the US, a new six-part TV series on National Geographic / PBS starts next Wednesday, May 18th, 2016. The title is "Genius by Stephen Hawking" and episode 1 is: Can We Time Travel? Having not seen it yet, I can't make a promise of its "SNR" (Science to Nonsense Ratio).