Magnus Danielson wrote:
So far:
UTC based: France, Sweden
GMT based (UT1?): Great Brittian, Denmark
I suspect several countries (such as US, Germany etc. etc) to be UTC
based, but I do not know for sure.
Norway is UTC-based as of 2008-01-01.
The law on units, measurements and standard
Hei Magne!
Magne Mæhre wrote:
Magnus Danielson wrote:
So far:
UTC based: France, Sweden
GMT based (UT1?): Great Brittian, Denmark
I suspect several countries (such as US, Germany etc. etc) to be UTC
based, but I do not know for sure.
Norway is UTC-based as of 2008-01-01.
Jim Palfreyman skrev:
In Australia, each state or territory defines its own time. I've scanned the
Australian legal database and found bills for all states and territories
defining time relative to UTC.
So you can put the whole of Australia definitely in the UTC pile.
OK, thanks Jim.
Magnus,
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:16:10 +0100, Magnus Danielson wrote:
the legal time for Germany (done via DCF77) , as defined in the
german 'Zeitgesetz' as summarized here:
http: //www.ptb.de/de/org/4/44/441/dars.htm
English version is on
http://www.ptb.de/en/org/4/44/441/_index.htm
Thank
Arnold,
Arnold Tibus skrev:
Magnus,
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:16:10 +0100, Magnus Danielson wrote:
the legal time for Germany (done via DCF77) , as defined in the
german 'Zeitgesetz' as summarized here:
http: //www.ptb.de/de/org/4/44/441/dars.htm
English version is on
In message 49c17d52.6050...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes:
Last time I checked, Gudhjem is the home of 777 soles.
I doubt that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_(fish)
It is a bit humours that the Danish translation of the EC Directive on
summer-time shifts defines the shifts
-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of M. Warner Losh
Sent: 19 March 2009 00:20
To: time-nuts@febo.com; mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
In message: 49c17d52.6050...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:
: I am still
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:04:51 +0100, Magnus Danielson wrote:
Arnold,
To remove another questionmark partly:
I suspect several countries (such as US, Germany etc. etc) to be UTC
based, but I do not know for sure.
The german time is fixed by law to MEZ=CET, the Central European
Time,
Poul-Henning Kamp skrev:
In message 49c17d52.6050...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes:
Last time I checked, Gudhjem is the home of 777 soles.
I doubt that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_(fish)
You should complain on my spelling... I knew something was fishy...
I naturally
Arnold Tibus skrev:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:04:51 +0100, Magnus Danielson wrote:
Arnold,
To remove another questionmark partly:
I suspect several countries (such as US, Germany etc. etc) to be UTC
based, but I do not know for sure.
The german time is fixed by law to MEZ=CET, the
In Australia, each state or territory defines its own time. I've scanned the
Australian legal database and found bills for all states and territories
defining time relative to UTC.
So you can put the whole of Australia definitely in the UTC pile.
Jim
2009/3/18 Magnus Danielson
Arnold,
Arnold Tibus skrev:
Magnus and all,
interestlingly the discussion about GMT seem to be a never ending
story, all over the world. As I know GMT was already renamed in
the year 1925 ( or 1928 acc. other source ) to UT and
universal time coordinated (U T C) (that) is standard
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To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
Arnold,
Arnold Tibus skrev:
Magnus and all
In message 000501c9a7b1$ef689bb0$a101a...@officemail, phil writes:
GMT based (UT1?): Great Brittian, Denmark
No, legally Denmark is still on mean solar time.
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=83966
--
Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
p...@freebsd.org
Sorry Magnus,
my comment were not related exactly to your question, I know.
Mainly I did want to help to clarify a bit wether France does or
not base their official time to UTC. [L'HEURE LEGALE ou l'heure
en usage en France se détermine à partir du Temps universel
coordonné (UTC). par le
Sorry again,
not of real importance, but
I forgot to annex the mentioned map,
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:53:48 +0100, Arnold Tibus wrote:
Sorry Magnus,
my comment were not related exactly to your question, I know.
Mainly I did want to help to clarify a bit wether France does or
not base their
and frequency measurement
: time-nuts@febo.com
: Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:27 PM
: Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
:
:
: Arnold,
:
: I therefore cannot see any problem is with France,
: but we have the need to define more precise and stable
: reference time from where we can
In message: 49c033e3.2010...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:
: So far:
:
: UTC based: France, Sweden
: GMT based (UT1?): Great Brittian, Denmark
US: UTC
It was Mean Solar Time for a long time, and then it was changed to
Mean Solar Time as
In message: 000501c9a7b1$ef689bb0$a101a...@officemail
phil fort...@bellsouth.net writes:
: This will answers all the questions.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMT
Except that it doesn't answer much of anything for Magnus' questions.
There's only 4 countries listed.
Warner
M. Warner Losh skrev:
In message: 000501c9a7b1$ef689bb0$a101a...@officemail
phil fort...@bellsouth.net writes:
: This will answers all the questions.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMT
Except that it doesn't answer much of anything for Magnus' questions.
There's only 4
Arnold,
Arnold Tibus skrev:
Sorry Magnus,
my comment were not related exactly to your question, I know.
OK. No problem.
Mainly I did want to help to clarify a bit wether France does or
not base their official time to UTC. [L'HEURE LEGALE ou l'heure
en usage en France se détermine à
M. Warner Losh skrev:
In message: 49c17d52.6050...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:
: I am still wondering who would set up NTP servers that provides UT1 time
: in order to realize GMT over NTP. It would not be all that difficult as
:
Rich and Marcia Putz skrev:
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would anyone like to speculate when France finally accepted UTC?
Uhm? I thought France was UTC country...
Anyone got a comprehensive list of what time scale is legally accepted
in various
Hi Magnus,
Try this site out for size:
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/timezone.htm
73,
Steve
2009/3/17 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org:
Rich and Marcia Putz skrev:
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would anyone like to speculate when
And they are on CET = GMT+1
2009/3/17 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org:
Rich and Marcia Putz skrev:
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would anyone like to speculate when France finally accepted UTC?
Uhm? I thought France was UTC country...
...@febo.com wrote:
Never ??
73, Dick, W1KSZ
-Original Message-
From: Rich and Marcia Putz rp...@bnin.net
Sent: Mar 16, 2009 6:54 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would
UTC? France? Of course they do accept it! see :
Université de Technologie de Compiègne (UTC)
(www.utc.fr/)
[ ;-) ]
More seriously:
We do use in Europe, including France, CET ¡
Central European Time, Time zone offset: UTC + 1 hour.
Interesting facts:
The GPS navigation system has GPS Time
On 3/17/09 5:58 AM, Arnold Tibus arnold.ti...@gmx.de wrote:
Interesting facts:
The GPS navigation system has GPS Time as its basis. Galileo
will have TAI as its basis. GLONASS has UTC as its basis,
Air traffic controllers are using UTC.
The latter is probably because air traffic control
In message c5e4ee4d.6481%james.p@jpl.nasa.gov, Lux, James P writes:
On 3/17/09 5:58 AM, Arnold Tibus arnold.ti...@gmx.de wrote:
Interesting facts:
The GPS navigation system has GPS Time as its basis. Galileo
will have TAI as its basis. GLONASS has UTC as its basis,
Air traffic
Hi Poul:
I've more than once misread a clock display of the type 12:34:05.
I've noticed that military clocks show 1234:05 and there's no mistaking the
time. Seems like a more foolproof display format.
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.prc68.com
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message
Arnold,
I therefore cannot see any problem is with France,
but we have the need to define more precise and stable
reference time from where we can then measure and add
the Earth and Solar instabilities for our daily used standard
watches, in order to be enabled still to continue living
Steve Rooke skrev:
Hi Magnus,
Try this site out for size:
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/timezone.htm
No. It just fails to make the distinction that I am asking for...
Stockholm, Sweden is UTC+1h as normal time and UTC+2h as summer time,
not GMT+1h and GMT+2h as indicated in the
to correct me if I'm wrong here.
Rob Kimberley
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:20
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
Magnus, at least as of 2000, GMT was still the legal time in the UK,
though it doesn't have a technically accurate definition any more. A
bill in 1997 attempted to change UK time to UTC, but it died in Parliament.
There's some discussion of this at pages 93-94 of a book that was
recommended
in UTC...
Have a nice day,
Jean-Louis Oneto
Grasse - France
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To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:27 PM
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Smith
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:05 PM
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Not exactly the case
Looks like the original post in this thread was a troll, as in fishing
for bites.
Anybody know this guy?
Bill Hawkins
-Original Message-
From: Rich and Marcia Putz
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:55 PM
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would anyone
and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
Arnold,
I therefore cannot see any problem is with France,
but we have the need to define more precise and stable
reference time from where we can then measure
I can vouch for Rich -- he's been on the list for a long time.
John
Bill Hawkins said the following on 03/17/2009 06:33 PM:
Looks like the original post in this thread was a troll, as in fishing
for bites.
Anybody know this guy?
Bill Hawkins
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UTC is the accepted international standard, but GMT appears to be
steadfastly held onto by the UK (especially Government departments). I
believe that GMT is actually by definition UTC_NPL, i.e. NPL contributes
to
UTC, but will have a small local offset
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would anyone like to speculate when France finally accepted UTC?
Rich
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73, Dick, W1KSZ
-Original Message-
From: Rich and Marcia Putz rp...@bnin.net
Sent: Mar 16, 2009 6:54 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks
Hi all;
Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses!
Also, would anyone like to speculate when
According to Wikipedia (a handy way to avoid speculation), international
agreement was reached in 1960.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
UTC is a compromise between the French and British initials.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Rich and Marcia Putz
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
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