Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-26 Thread Christopher Brown
t; > Tom > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Brown" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup > > >> >> Might want to dial that back a bit. >> >>

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-26 Thread Bob Camp
of them and the > local RatShak went TU. > > Tom > > - Original Message - From: "Christopher Brown" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup > > >> >> M

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Tom Miller
ginal Message - From: "Christopher Brown" To: Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Might want to dial that back a bit. Since 12V/7ah batteries are mentioned I am assuming standard small gelcell units. Proper fl

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Alex Pummer
use nickel-iron battery [Edison Accumulator] which is not sensitive to deep discharge, over charge and last for min twenty years - unfortunately it does not fit into the American business model --because it last to long--so it is not produced in the US any more. 73 Alex On 10/25/2014 5:30 PM, B

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Camp
t; - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Camp" >> To: "Bob Stewart" >> Cc: "Time Nuts" >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup &

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Christopher Brown
riginal Message - > From: "Bob Camp" > To: "Bob Stewart" > Cc: "Time Nuts" > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup > > >> Hi >> >> Spend the effort,

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Camp
g the phase offset of the 10MHz to the PPS, but as > you say, I haven't measured it yet. > > Bob > > From: Bob Camp > To: Bob Stewart > Cc: Time Nuts > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial s

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
I think they're reporting the phase offset of the 10MHz to the PPS, but as you say, I haven't measured it yet. Bob From: Bob Camp To: Bob Stewart Cc: Time Nuts Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Tom Miller
fail. Tom - Original Message - From: "Bob Camp" To: "Bob Stewart" Cc: "Time Nuts" Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Hi Spend the effort, get an antenna outside the house.

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bill Riches
To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Hi If 6) Lady Heather does not play well with one :( My guess is that the Z3805 has pretty much the same “stuff” in it. They both come from the same era and

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Hal Murray
b...@evoria.net said: > I'm pretty sure it does provide +5 to the antenna.  I didn't understand what > I was seeing for quite some time yesterday, and it seemed like it was > telling me it didn't see an antenna. ... No, it's telling you that your antenna is not in a good location. When the sate

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Camp
: Bob Camp > To: Bob Stewart ; Discussion of precise time and frequency > measurement > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup > > Hi > > Remember - these gizmos are designed as a CDMA base station

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
m: Bob Camp To: Bob Stewart ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Hi Remember - these gizmos are designed as a CDMA base station reference, not as a Time Nut freq

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Remember - these gizmos are designed as a CDMA base station reference, not as a Time Nut frequency (or time) standard. They (likely) had a +/- 100 ns spec on the gizmo for static time error when locked to GPS. The little trained squirrel inside makes an executive decision to move the PPS whe

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Arthur Dent
I can't remember when I initially powered up my RFTG-u REF 1 how long it took to give me the green light but I *believe* it was a long time, maybe the better part of 24 hours. I think after testing and being fustrated I forgot to turn it off one night and the next day things looked normal. I have s

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
rt ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Hi If the Z3810/11/12 is like the other HP / Symmetricom boxes (and I’d bet it is): 1) It will go into survey and sync re

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Camp
sed, > there are no vent holes, and the temperature in the box on my PCB is just a > bit over 99 degrees F. > > Bob > > From: Bob Camp > To: Bob Stewart ; Discussion of precise time and frequency > measurement > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:09 AM > Sub

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
Regarding my comment earlier that my GPSDO and this Z3812A don't agree on phase.  I see just now a fairly quick phase movement of the phase between the two, and I see that there is a line on the Satstat program that may explain this:  1PPS TI +50.0 ns relative to GPS.  Just a few minutes ago, it

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
ust a bit over 99 degrees F. Bob From: Bob Camp To: Bob Stewart ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Hi One of the interesting things about these l

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
rt ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Let us know how this is progressing. I am waiting on a TNC connector, so can't get mine up and running this weekend as pl

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One of the interesting things about these little receiver modules is that they don’t all report the same survey location. There are NIST papers with examples. You could probably spend a lot of time on the “why”. If you are getting “poor geometry” errors, either you have an antenna issue, or

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Hi Bob If REF-0 is the only one that can output the data that would certainly put me in a shot myself in the foot position wouldn't it?:-) However, we do know from Arthur that REF-1 will operate stand alone, so assuming you haven't got a faulty unit, which I suspect is pretty unlikely, an

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Anthony Roby
? Anthony -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Stewart Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:47 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup Sorry if these comments are a bit

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Hal Murray
b...@evoria.net said: > The mode says "Power-Up: GPS Acquisition", so I guess that's OK.  I think > things are progressing.  It's attempting to survey, but reporting > "Suspended: poor geometry".  I suppose with a little more time this will > work itself out?  It seems to be slowly tracking more s

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-25 Thread Bob Stewart
precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup b...@evoria.net said: > The mode says "Power-Up: GPS Acquisition", so I guess that's OK.  I think

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361/Z3812A GPSDO initial setup

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Stewart
Sorry if these comments are a bit naive, but this is my first exposure to a Z38xx. I've got mine powered on and connected to the antenna.  After referring to Stewart's original post (once again) I've managed to download HP's SATSTAT and get it running.  When I connected to the REF-1 unit (with