[time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
John F., The Palladium valve is also known as a palladium leak or a palladium purifier. In the Maser the use is as the leak. It would also serve to purify the H2 BUT any other impurities lodge in the Palladium plug and can eventually cause it to fail. Early symptoms manifest as having to heat

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Higher operating temperatures force the use of nickel alloy to replace the silver palladium alloy traditionally used. At higher operating temperatures (40c and above) its not possible to turn off (without cooling it) the palladium leak. The Russian masers use nickel or nickel alloy instead of

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Reference for palladium-silver leak difficulty at high temperature. http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1988/Vol%2020_10.pdf Bruce Bruce Griffiths wrote: Higher operating temperatures force the use of nickel alloy to replace the silver palladium alloy traditionally used. At higher operating

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Had
If your serious, the disassociator splits the hydrogen molecules H2 into atoms H to allow maser operation. I do have an old Interocitor screen I could mount on top of the Maser. It would look kinda neat! Oh Corby, you are a man of true wit. I love it Hadley A fine is a tax for doing

[time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
This EFOS maser typically runs with the two vacuum pressures below 1.5 X 10-6 Torr. (as measured via the ion pump current) Maximum should not exceed about 3.6 X 10-6 Torr for either pump. The internal vacuum will drop to about 1 X10-7 Torr if the Hydrogen to the disassociator is turned off. One

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
John F., The Palladium valve is also known as a palladium leak or a palladium purifier. In the Maser the use is as the leak. It would also serve to purify the H2 BUT any other impurities lodge in the Palladium plug and can eventually cause it to fail. Early symptoms manifest as having to

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Back to the Palladium plug for a minute. The problem you mentioned about the valve not shutting off completely is analogous to the problem with HeCd LASERs. In a HeCd LASER, there is an oven with Cd metal in it that is heated to provide Cd ions to the discharge tube. There is also He in the tube.

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Corby Dawson wrote: This EFOS maser typically runs with the two vacuum pressures below 1.5 X 10-6 Torr. (as measured via the ion pump current) Maximum should not exceed about 3.6 X 10-6 Torr for either pump. The internal vacuum will drop to about 1 X10-7 Torr

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Two things helped a lot: Big pumps and an LN2 cold trap. The LN2 trap (as long as it is kept filled) will condense most everything except a few permanent gases. It also stops the backflow of pump oil. However, if something goes wrong, you would not believe the mess. A technician that worked for

[time-nuts] Maser info (rough pumping)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
With the triode pumps you only need the vacsorbs for roughing, as they will start at a higher pressure! I have changed two ion pumps so far and only used the vacsorbs to get back in operation. The vacsorbs and accessories were eBay buys over a period of a few months and very reasonable compared

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Scott Newell
At 01:17 PM 9/2/2010, Mark J. Blair wrote: Back in college, I took a semiconductor device physics course which included a lab where we made simple ICs (the most complex devices were SR latches). We had a vapor deposition system for plating on gold or aluminum, which pumped the chamber down

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Scott Newell wrote: I think I took that same class (sub-basement of Steele, right?) just a few years after you. That would be the one! See, I knew that most anybody who attended that particular institution would recognize my description of that piece of

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Mark J. Blair wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Corby Dawson wrote: This EFOS maser typically runs with the two vacuum pressures below 1.5 X 10-6 Torr. (as measured via the ion pump current) Maximum should not exceed about 3.6 X 10-6 Torr for either pump. The internal vacuum will drop to

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Heathkid
is $$$) there are a lot of very good, high precision parts just begging to be hacked. - Original Message - From: jimlux jim...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Heathkid
...@earthlink.net To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels) J. Forster wrote: Two things helped a lot: Big pumps and an LN2 cold trap. The LN2 trap (as long

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Heathkid wrote: Sounds like the parts of a salvaged SEM would be a good start for a project such as this (assuming the diffusion pump is included - I've been looking for one for a while but it seems the pumps are almost *always* missing). But still, if you could find one locally (freight is