Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are indeed modules that will move a pps over fiber. They are not cheap. They also are not real good bang for the buck if you need millisecond level timing. Without guidance on what we are trying to do here it’s very tough to come up with much. NTP over a symmetrical route will indeed d

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-14 Thread Hal Murray
mafl...@theflynn.org said: > I am working on a project where I need to transfer 1PPS approximately 120 > meters between buildings.I cam borrow a pair of 62.5 fibers from IT/ > telco to do so. Google for >fiber IRIG< gets plenty of hits. Raw PPS is a nasty case for fibers. You need some s

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Martin A Flynn
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Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread George Atkinson
Hi IRIG A20 (manchester code) or even A10 (DC level shift) should drive a transmitter directly or you could use an AM carrier, A13 is 10kHz, A14 100kHz or A15 1MHz. LuxLink sell off-the shelf solutions, see http://www.luxlink.com/products/irig.htm or SEL will do duplex data plus IRIG B over a two f

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
What accuracy requirements do you have?Do you have a requirement to measure and test your installation? Testing likely means you will have to "round trip" the signal. The round trip doubles the cost but I don't see how to avoid it unless you already have accurate time at both ends and if you

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Albertson
What accuracy requirements do you have. This could be easy or impossible. Don't spend to much money distributing 1PPS because you can have it any place you want for the cost of a GPS receiver. A second GPS receiver is likely cheaper than the cost of 120 meters of cable plus the cable drivers and

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Is $1K to much for the budget or is $200K? Are you after microseconds, nanoseconds, or picoseconds? Depending on what you are after, the range of “in the middle of the pack” moves around quite a bit. Bob On Jul 13, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Martin A Flynn wrote: > Hi Chris, > Timing source is a

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Martin A Flynn
Hi Chris, Timing source is a SyncServer 200 with the rubidium option.The inter-building fiber is already budgeted as part of the IT and telecom portion of the project. It adds no cost to the project to use it other then the optical transceivers. That is where i need help - selecting th

[time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-13 Thread Martin A Flynn
I am working on a project where I need to transfer 1PPS approximately 120 meters between buildings.I cam borrow a pair of 62.5 fibers from IT/telco to do so. Playing cost / performance against one another, I am looking for a solution somewhere in the middle that does not requires SM-28 sin