Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

well,that is a good question. Knowing the publishing industry a yea after submission of the manuscript , so end of 2018 if we pull our act together ... In a message dated 8/18/2017 6:31:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wb4...@wb4gcs.org writes: When will it be available?? Jim

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

When will it be available?? Jim wb4...@amsat.org On 8/18/2017 4:17 PM, Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts wrote: Yes, and there is a lot of useful material in place including CMOS and related new topics and update on numerical controlled oscillators . Thanks, Ulrich Sent from my iPhone

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Yes, and there is a lot of useful material in place including CMOS and related new topics and update on numerical controlled oscillators . Thanks, Ulrich Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, David Bengtson wrote: > > That's good news. It would be good

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise correlation. Dave On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM wrote: > Good Morning all , > > yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter > 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

Good Morning all , yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm abbreviation and the noise correlation part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things So I thing we are settled. Thanks, Ulrich In a

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this? Regards Dave On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts wrote: > > Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be needed or > missing . > > Ulrich > > > > > In a message dated 3/11/2016

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Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be needed or missing . Ulrich In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, att...@kinali.ch writes: Hoi Ulrich, On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500 KA2WEU--- via time-nuts wrote:

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Thanks, that why I try to keep it alive, Ulrich In a message dated 3/9/2016 5:08:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brent.ev...@gmail.com writes: Ulrich - I checked my bookshelf last night and sure enough, Rhode's "Digital PLL Frequency Synthesizers - Theory and Design" is still sitting

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

Ulrich - I checked my bookshelf last night and sure enough, Rhode's "Digital PLL Frequency Synthesizers - Theory and Design" is still sitting faithfully there (I thought it might have been lost with my missing copy of "Microwave Transistor Amplifiers by Gonzales). I remember getting it directly

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

Hi Ulrich and Jim, On 03/08/2016 07:11 PM, jimlux wrote: The people who really know about this stuff do it for a living, all the time, and probably don't have a lot of free time. I've done a couple of book chapters, and it's an enormous amount of work, and that's with collaborators and editors

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition and other activities

Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of KA2WEU--- via time-nuts Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:57 AM To: rich...@karlquist.com; time-nuts@febo.com Cc: enrico.rubi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition yes, but the underlying math

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-Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of KA2WEU--- via time-nuts Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:57 AM To: rich...@karlquist.com; time-nuts@febo.com Cc: enrico.rubi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition yes, but the underlying math

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; time-nuts@febo.com Cc: enrico.rubi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition yes, but the underlying math and system architecture will/would be exciting. Thanks, for the comments, Ulrich ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

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Correct, unless yo want to sell PLL chips, DDS and NCO's and their use needs to be explained ! Ulrich In a message dated 3/8/2016 2:01:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: On 3/8/16 8:27 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: > > > On 3/8/2016 3:18 AM,

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

On 3/8/2016 10:11 AM, jimlux wrote: Or is subject to export controls because of the specific application. While you could probably "generalize" it to get out from under export controls, that's a lot of work. Ulrich and Rick raise interesting points: The people who really know about this

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

On 3/8/16 8:27 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 3/8/2016 3:18 AM, ka2...@aol.com wrote: Good Morning, technically you are correct, most buy what they find and live with a compromise. But companies like mine, R, test equipment , need superior performance and many parts which we need, we

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

: "jimlux" <jim...@earthlink.net> À : time-nuts@febo.com Envoyé 08/03/2016 14:30:51 Objet : Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition >On 3/8/16 12:19 AM, Stéphane Rey wrote: >>Hi Rick, >> >>There are hopefully many applications where monolythics PLL can't >&

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yes, but the underlying math and system architecture will/would be exciting. Thanks, for the comments, Ulrich In a message dated 3/8/2016 11:29:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rich...@karlquist.com writes: On 3/8/2016 3:18 AM, ka2...@aol.com wrote: > Good Morning, > technically you

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

On 3/8/2016 3:18 AM, ka2...@aol.com wrote: Good Morning, technically you are correct, most buy what they find and live with a compromise. But companies like mine, R, test equipment , need superior performance and many parts which we need, we have made by foundries. Numerically controlled

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the approach is different than for PLLs I'm designing for radiocom... Stephane, F1TJJ -- Message d'origine -- De : "jimlux" <jim...@earthlink.net> À : time-nuts@febo.com Envoyé 08/03/2016 14:30:51 Objet : Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition On 3/8/16 12:19 AM, Stéphane Rey

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Yes, and an extension of my book should address these issues Ulrich In a message dated 3/8/2016 10:02:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: On 3/8/16 12:19 AM, Stéphane Rey wrote: > Hi Rick, > > There are hopefully many applications where monolythics PLL can't >

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

On 3/8/16 12:19 AM, Stéphane Rey wrote: Hi Rick, There are hopefully many applications where monolythics PLL can't achieve the requested functionalitities or performances so that there is still room to build block PLLs. I'm still desiging such things for my job for instance. As do we at JPL.

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

Hi The one area that the chips have not quite yet taken over is the whole “software defined loop” or digital PLL. A GPSDO is one example of this, there are a number of other odd little niche areas they show up. Indeed, it’s been maybe 20 years since I put a non-software PLL in a product

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

Good Morning, technically you are correct, most buy what they find and live with a compromise. But companies like mine, R, test equipment , need superior performance and many parts which we need, we have made by foundries. Numerically controlled oscillators belong to this and modern IQ

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-- De : "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <rich...@karlquist.com> À : ka2...@aol.com; "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Cc: enrico.rubi...@gmail.com Envoyé 08/03/2016 04:33:24 Objet : Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd editi

Re: [time-nuts] PLL book 3rd edition

I know for me, I mainly use the "synthesizer on a chip" IC's from Analog Devices/Hittite and National. Their data sheets and ap notes serve as the "textbook". I'm not sure there will be much call going forward for a book on fundamentals that explains how to design synthesizers from first