Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-24 Thread k4...@aol.com
K4CLE Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Attila Kinali To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 09:03:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT) saidj...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-22 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT) saidj...@aol.com wrote: > Hi Attila, > In a message dated 10/20/2011 22:28:19 Pacific Daylight Time, > att...@kinali.ch writes: > > > That's also my impression. It was only after i had a longer > > discussion with one of the user support guys about th

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-21 Thread Art Sepin
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of saidj...@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:48 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com; t...@leapsecond.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO Hi Attila, please share the document with

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-21 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Attila, please share the document with us. Thanks, Said In a message dated 10/20/2011 22:28:19 Pacific Daylight Time, att...@kinali.ch writes: That's also my impression. It was only after i had a longer discussion with one of the user support guys about the exact specs of the 6T tha

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:21:31 -0700 "Tom Van Baak" wrote: > I suspect the u-blox units are more concerned with quick > acquisition time and urban coverage than they are with > nanoseconds, but if someone knows for sure, please tell. That's also my impression. It was only after i had a longer disc

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-19 Thread Javier Herrero
El 19/10/2011 19:51, b...@lysator.liu.se escribió: BTW, Looks like iPhone 4s is also GLONASS-capable. http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/19/apple-appeases-russians-and-improves-gps-with-glonass-support/ And it seems to incorporate a nice multifunction IC http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Blu

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-19 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Tom, >I am very eager to see lab reports of low-cost combined >GPS+GLONASS receivers. I bet Said has good info on >the u-blox 4T vs. 5T vs. 6T but now that he's selling to us >instead of sharing with us, you've noticed how quiet he >is about all this. Sorry, haven't posted as much info

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-19 Thread bg
> BTW, Looks like iPhone 4s is also GLONASS-capable. http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/19/apple-appeases-russians-and-improves-gps-with-glonass-support/ -- Björn ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-19 Thread Yuri Ostry
Hello, Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 10:04:06, Mike Cook wrote: m> and on the bay of course. see for example 150659387614, again a Russian m> product which even flags the sats with the national flag. Navigation m> only, but a nut might want to poke probes into it. Russian design based on one of

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-19 Thread mike cook
Le 19/10/2011 07:03, Yuri Ostry a écrit : Hello, Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 1:21:31, Tom Van Baak wrote: T> So the antenna and receiver architecture is more complicated. Have you seen any T> portable car navigation or cell phones with GLONASS? Smartphone with both nav systems (sorry, Russ

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread bg
The new Garmin Etrex series has GPS and Glonass. /Björn > Hello, > > Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 1:21:31, Tom Van Baak wrote: > > T> So the antenna and receiver architecture is more complicated. Have you > seen any > T> portable car navigation or cell phones with GLONASS? > > Smartphone with bot

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Yuri Ostry
Hello, Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 1:21:31, Tom Van Baak wrote: T> So the antenna and receiver architecture is more complicated. Have you seen any T> portable car navigation or cell phones with GLONASS? Smartphone with both nav systems (sorry, Russian page only): http://www.shop.mts.ru/phones

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, there is a GLONASS navigator: the EXPLAY GN510, ePay item 150659387614. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:33 PM, David VanHorn < d.vanh...@elec-solutions.com> wrote: > > So GLONASS is cool, even if they do land more of them in the ocean than > in space ;-) > > They are just getting their "Low geosy

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread David VanHorn
> So GLONASS is cool, even if they do land more of them in the ocean than in > space ;-) They are just getting their "Low geosync" constellation in place. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-b

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Tom Van Baak
So where do I get a cheap, used Russian GPSDO? I have not seen any on EBay Can I trade them my Tbolt? :) per: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1998/Vol%2030_18.pdf Note that's a rather old 1998 paper and a lot has changed since then. Not the least of which is GPS S/A going away back in 2000. In

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Pete Lancashire
Maybe better to ask, what is the commercial price of a T-Bolt and compare to that. We have been Extremely lucky only due to the upgrades of the global cell phone system, If it was not for that I wonder what the situation would be On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:53 AM, WarrenS wrote: > > So where do I g

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread WarrenS
Are there specs for any of the Russian GPSDO's With phase resolution around 1000 times better than a Tbolt, they should be capable of some impressive performance. ws *** I see that Meinberg have just announced a GPS/Glonass LanTime unit. It can work either one or the other sou

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Robin Kimberley
Jackson Sent: 17 October 2011 20:26 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO WS, We are looking to offer Glonass enabled versions of our Jackson Labs Tech GPSDOs (Firefly-II series) by Q1

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, uBlox is GLONASS-ready but no units actually available. On 10/18/11, Yuri Ostry wrote: > Hello, > > Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 12:01:46, Attila Kinali wrote: > > A> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:53:51 -0700 > A> "WarrenS" wrote: > >>> So where do I get a cheap, used Russian GPSDO? >>> I have not s

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Yuri Ostry
Hello, Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 12:01:46, Attila Kinali wrote: A> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:53:51 -0700 A> "WarrenS" wrote: >> So where do I get a cheap, used Russian GPSDO? >> I have not seen any on EBay >> Can I trade them my Tbolt? :) A> uBlox offers GLONASS ready modules for a few months.

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-18 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:53:51 -0700 "WarrenS" wrote: > So where do I get a cheap, used Russian GPSDO? > I have not seen any on EBay > Can I trade them my Tbolt? :) uBlox offers GLONASS ready modules for a few months. You could take one of the many GPSDOs that use uBlox modules (e.g. the ones fro

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-17 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
These must be bloody expensive - I didn't see any mention of price on their web site. How do these units compare with Thunderbolts aside from lower power consumption? On 10/17/2011 12:25 PM, Said Jackson wrote: Jackson Labs Tech GPSDOs (Firefly-II series) -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-17 Thread Said Jackson
WS, We are looking to offer Glonass enabled versions of our Jackson Labs Tech GPSDOs (Firefly-II series) by Q1 next year. If sufficient interest exists. Bye, Said Sent From iPhone On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:53, "WarrenS" wrote: > > So where do I get a cheap, used Russian GPSDO? > I have not see

[time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-17 Thread WarrenS
So where do I get a cheap, used Russian GPSDO? I have not seen any on EBay Can I trade them my Tbolt? :) per: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1998/Vol%2030_18.pdf "Although not as well known as the GPS, the Russian global satellite navigation system GLONASS possesses comparable capabilities fo