On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:41:37 -0800
Chris Albertson wrote:
> A good feature to look for is autorouting. and design rule checking.
> Of course every engineer thinks he is smarter than this kind of
> software. Mostly he is but it is good to use software that simply
> will not allow some kinds of
NeonJohn wrote:
> I use professionally. It was the best that our small company could
> afford. Here are some tips that will save you mucho grief.
>
> 1) This is the biggie. Make your own parts library. Then put any part
> that you have to create in that library. As well, put a copy of any
> st
I've used EAGLE for about ten years. I strongly agree with what
NeonJohn wrote below. I don't know if it is still the case, but when I
started using EAGLE all of the library parts were on metric spacing
(including DIPs and SMDs). This causes all sorts of headaches when
doing a layout on inch
Hi
Verifying Gerbers on a trace by trace basis for a moderately complex
multi-layer design could take a very long time. If you can't trust the program
to go from the screen to the Gerbers, I'd say - find a new program... A bug
like that nullifies any value from schematic checking or DRC.
Bob
I use professionally. It was the best that our small company could
afford. Here are some tips that will save you mucho grief.
1) This is the biggie. Make your own parts library. Then put any part
that you have to create in that library. As well, put a copy of any
standard library part in your
In case anyone is following my progress, I started with EAGLE. It works fine on
the Mac. I can tell it's not quite native (it even has a man(1) page!), but
it's no problem. One afternoon with the tutorial, and I have a schematic.
It's not yet complete, but that's not Eagle's fault: I'm still
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Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?
Jim Hickstein wrote:
> What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly PCB
>
> worse, I prefer ANSI logic symbology over sho
any specific program. I'm just trying to
>> complicate the decision process. It's better to look at all the issues
>> before you spend a couple months learning how a package works than to run
>> through three or four packages (and a years worth of agony).
>>
>>
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Brooke Clarke wrote:
> Now when you're doing the layout you can turn on checking and all the pads
> for the currently active note light up in a different color. By stepping
> through all the nodes you can confirm that they are all connected to each
> other.
A go
issues
before you spend a couple months learning how a package works than to run
through three or four packages (and a years worth of agony).
Bob
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Subject: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?
What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly PCB
layout), for low-budget homebrew stuff? It's been so long since I did this,
I
still own a T-square and a pile of contemporary relics like rules and
triang
> I'm a UNIX guy, really. It so happens I can't use a Mac unless it has a
> 3-button mouse and between 9 and 16 xterms open at any given time
That's me also, The Mac is taking the place of the high-end Silicon
Graphics O2 that I used to like.
One more Schematic capture program I like that is
Charles P. Steinmetz wrote:
> I've been using LTspice for schematic capture and simulation at
> home. Will the PCB CAD tools being discussed (Eagle, DesignSpark,
> FreePCB, etc.) import netlists from LTspice? Or do folks prefer to
> do the schematic capture in a CAD tool and export that netlist t
> If you can stomach Xwindows applications, then there are many open-source
applications such as the Chipmunk system:
I'm a UNIX guy, really. It so happens I can't use a Mac unless it has a
3-button mouse and between 9 and 16 xterms open at any given time. :-) And yet
it can print!
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Add a vote on DipTrace. I like it a lot. The Schematics and PCB environments
are well integrated. The library has thousands of components (generic and
proprietary), and the free version will support up to 300 pins on two PCB
layers. It runs on all versions of Windows starting at 2000 and also ru
I have been using OrCad SDT and PCB 386+ since the middle 1980's.
It is a DOS based classic, and runs very nicely using the DOSEMU
emulator on linux. It also runs nicely on Windows machines using
their various dosbox incantations.
The full package is available in the files section of the yahoo
D
On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jim Hickstein wrote:
> What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly PCB
> layout), for low-budget homebrew stuff?
[snip]
> I'm a Mac shop, but can of course run Windows if need be.
Basically there are only two reasonable choices for s
I'll add my $0.01 (depreciated).
I am working on a project with Eagle. I started with the Gnu cad
stuff but like many free software projects, it has multiple user
interfaces and clunks. I tired of it and switched to Eagle.
Eagle also has quirks but has the ability to switch back and forth
betwe
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz
wrote:
> I've been using LTspice for schematic capture and simulation at home. Will
> the PCB CAD tools being discussed (Eagle, DesignSpark, FreePCB, etc.) import
> netlists from LTspice? Or do folks prefer to do the schematic capture in a
>
I've been using LTspice for schematic capture and simulation at
home. Will the PCB CAD tools being discussed (Eagle, DesignSpark,
FreePCB, etc.) import netlists from LTspice? Or do folks prefer to
do the schematic capture in a CAD tool and export that netlist to
LTspice for simulation?
Best
Hi Jim, for many years (over 20) I have used protel (now altium)
autotrax- not that I am recommending it to you, but it is a very
simple and intuitive program to use and I base my opinion of all the
others on it. All the more modern ones I have tried are, for the most
part, from fairly, to extremel
I used Eagle for years, but can't say I really warmed to it. I recently
changed to DipTrace. Their pricing model seems to work better for
me (large but sparse boards in Eagle require $$$ license) as it's based
on pin count, not board size.
It's really hard to quantify usability, but I no longe
> I'll add another vote for Eagle. It is a German program written in
> Unix, and ported to Windows. Therefore, you select the action
> first then click on the object of the action. It takes some getting
> used to. There has been a pattern of PC layout companies getting
> cobbled up leaving you
>
>
> Jim Hickstein said the following on 02/23/2012 07:38 PM:
> > What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly
> > PCB layout), for low-budget homebrew stuff? It's been so long since I
> > did this, I still own a T-square and a pile of contemporary relics like
> > ru
I mostly use Target3001:
http://server.ibfriedrich.com/wiki/ibfwikien/index.php?title=Main_Page
It's commercial, but there are six different editions starting as low as
59€, with digital+analog, schematics, PCB, autorouting, simulation, it's
multilingual (German/English/French), and there is eve
e the darling
of the DIY and Sparkfun type folks.
Bob LaJeunesse
From: Bruce Lane
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 8:36:54 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?
Good eve,
I must b
I favor ExpressPCs free schematic generation and board layout
But Now I have a whole new list to go looking for.
More time-nuts trouble ahead.
Regards
Paul
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Bruce Lane wrote:
> Good eve,
>
>I must be the exception... I've tried Eagle, most recently abou
Good eve,
I must be the exception... I've tried Eagle, most recently about three
months back. I can't stand it. I find it, for my purposes, to be about as
intuitive as a Salvador Dali painting.
I've not yet tried DesignSpark, but it looks very promising.
Personally, I u
Hi,
Comments on their downloads page indicate that it runs under Wine. I havent
tried it though.
Cheers.
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 05:18:06 PM Chris Albertson wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Elio Corbolante wrote:
> > DesignSpark PCB: http://www.designspark.com/knowledge/pcb
> >
Jim Hickstein wrote:
> What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly PCB
>
> worse, I prefer ANSI logic symbology over shovels-and-spades (or, really,
> over
> plain rectangles where you're expected to know what the part number
> means).
>
I'll add another vote for Eagle.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Elio Corbolante wrote:
> DesignSpark PCB: http://www.designspark.com/knowledge/pcb
> Being free and having no limitations like Eagle
This looks interesting but the download is a .exe file for Windows
Does anyone know if it works with Wine? Yes I know I could tr
DesignSpark PCB: http://www.designspark.com/knowledge/pcb
Being free and having no limitations like Eagle, I think you can try it...
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There are a bunch of choices, some free and some limited to working with
a certain PCB shop, but I like Eagle (http://www.cadsoftusa.com)
because, among other things, it's cross-platform running on Windows,
Mac, and Linux (I use the Linux version). There's a free version and a
couple of steps
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:46 PM, wrote:
> Nowadays you can simply download the design software for free from the fab
> houses.
Yes, but in many cases these have problems like (1) They save the
design in a format that forces to to use ONLY that fab house to make
the PCB. You really, really want
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jim Hickstein wrote:
> What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly PCB
> layout), for low-budget homebrew stuff?
"Eagle" is popular. It is a commercial product but there is a free
version that limits you to "smallish" PCBs. If you out
Eagle all the way. It's free and the documentation is good enough to
get you by. There is a huge hobbiest following as well if you get
stuck. Definitely read the tutorial on creating parts. It'll be
nearly impossible to wing.
The free version has some limits. 80mmx100mm boards, 2 layers, and
Nowadays you can simply download the design software for free from the fab
houses.
Try PCB 123 from sunstone.com
Good shop, reasonable prices for quick protos.
bye,
Said
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> Subject: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?
>
> What do people use the
What do people use these days for schematic capture (and just possibly PCB
layout), for low-budget homebrew stuff? It's been so long since I did this, I
still own a T-square and a pile of contemporary relics like rules and triangles.
I'll get out my pencil sharpener if I have to. But really,
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