Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Kirby
I like the tuning "slug" on that oscillator ! Tom Van Baak wrote: A couple of years ago I measured this one... ;-) http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/10811-slow/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay

2005-05-09 Thread Tom Van Baak
A couple of years ago I measured this one... ;-) http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/10811-slow/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Folks, I hesitate to do this, but I think this topic has gone on long enough and we're not shedding much new light. Let's give it a rest Thanks, John Yr Humble Listmanager ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mail

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread David Kirkby
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kirkby writes: I seriously doubt you will ever get a better and more researched answer than: Tom has said he has tested bad 10811A's and good 10811-60111's. But Tom has not said (to me anyway) if the peformance of the oscillators tes

RE: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(RayMahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread John Miles
Also, once your GPS standard project is up and running with the -60111, I'm sure that someone on the list would be more than happy to borrow it and compare it to their own Cs or H standard, and give you a short-term stability plot. You can then look at the graph and see if the HP rock is giving yo

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kirkby writes: >> I seriously doubt you will ever get a better and more researched >> answer than: >> >>>Tom has said he has tested bad 10811A's and good 10811-60111's. > >But Tom has not said (to me anyway) if the peformance of the oscillators >tested is ra

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread David Kirkby
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kirkby writes: I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that there would be a higher probability of a randomly chosen 10811A being better today than a randomly chosen 10811-60111. I guess the only way to know this is to test a sufficient num

RE: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(RayMahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread John Miles
Unless it's going into the next Mars probe, I would just hook the thing up and see if it's good enough for the intended application. Time (no pun intended) to move on. -- john KE5FX > Richard (Rick) Karlquist (N6RK) wrote: > > > All 10811-6 are simply selections of one of the above. > > Afte

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kirkby writes: >I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that there would be a higher probability >of a randomly chosen 10811A being better today than a randomly chosen >10811-60111. I guess the only way to know this is to test a sufficient >number to get staticall

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread David Kirkby
Richard (Rick) Karlquist (N6RK) wrote: All 10811-6 are simply selections of one of the above. After a lot of time has gone by, these selections are, for the most part, irrelevant. The specs on the 10811A are higher than on the 10811-60111. If I remember correctly, there are no phase noise s

RE: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
, but it looks like a list of > numbers folllows this, and not the letter A I'm converned this is > perhaps a special, at an odd freqency, and not the standard 10MHz > 10811A. Is there any where it actually says 10811A on the > package? Can you give me a price to ship to the UK. Address would

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo (Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-07 Thread Brian Kirby
I appreciate the notification of somebody who does not deliver what was advertised. There is too much spin doctoring going on. Joe Geller wrote: David, It is understandable that you are disappointed that it turns out this seller is offering the 10811 - 60111 version instead of the 10811 A model

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo (Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-07 Thread David Kirkby
David Kirkby wrote: Feel free to continue to discuss it privately with me if you wish. I have set the reply address to myself only. I did change the "reply to" address, but the mailing list has changed the "reply to" adress once again. One obviously can't override that process. -- David Kirkby

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo (Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-07 Thread David Kirkby
Joe Geller wrote: David, It is understandable that you are disappointed that it turns out this seller is offering the 10811 - 60111 version instead of the 10811 A model that you were looking for. But if you look at your question to him objectively, I think one can reasonably see that he took your

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo

2005-05-07 Thread Mike S
At 11:09 AM 5/7/2005, Joe Geller wrote... >that you were looking for. But if you look at your question to him >objectively, I think one can reasonably see that he took your question with >regard to the output frequency. If you look at the answer objectively , it is obvious that the seller un

Re: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo (Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-07 Thread Joe Geller
David, It is understandable that you are disappointed that it turns out this seller is offering the 10811 - 60111 version instead of the 10811 A model that you were looking for. But if you look at your question to him objectively, I think one can reasonably see that he took your questi

[time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo (Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-06 Thread David Kirkby
Just in case any of you were thinking of buying an HP 10811A, there is someone (Ray Mahoney, callsign N4NBS) on eBay selling one right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7513958962 who I would definitely avoid. I won an auction for an HP 10811A from him http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/