Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread J. L. Trantham
Larry, Thanks for the education. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Larry McDavid Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:21 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread J. L. Trantham
or '0' for GPS, depending on what the Z3816A is set for. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Donald Henderickx Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 9:57 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: R

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread Larry McDavid
Oops! "RO" is Reverse Osmosis. I incorrectly assumed that was widely known. I've had an RO system under my kitchen sink for 30 years. Even CostCo sells RO systems you can install yourself. There is a separate spigot faucet on the sink for this mineral-free water. RO systems first pass city wat

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread J. L. Trantham
e time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning I recommend against using tap water on any electronics. Use RO or distilled water; that won't leave behind minerals when it evaporates. Most IPA is only 70%; the balance is water. For flux removal, use 99% o

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread paul swed
Tek article is quite good. Time to find a power washer for my tek 2465Bs. Maybe that will fix the memories. Not. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Donald Henderickx wrote: > On 1/23/2014 11:30 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > >> Also, I seem to recall a command that can be sent by Sat

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread Donald Henderickx
On 1/23/2014 11:30 PM, Hal Murray wrote: Also, I seem to recall a command that can be sent by SatStat to change from GPS time to UTC time but I can't find it in my files. Is there such a command or am I hallucinating? My notes for the Z3801A say: :diag:gps:utc 1 http://www.realhamradio.co

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread J. L. Trantham
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Little Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:00 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning Tektronix used to clean their oscilloscopes in a so

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread David C. Partridge
precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning >trip through a regular home dishwasher with tap water and Calgonite. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-24 Thread Howard Davidson
When I worked at H-P, the original H-P, Loveland instrument division the last stage for circuit boards coming off the soldering process was a trip through a regular home dishwasher with tap water and Calgonite. It got ionic contamination off the boards better than anything else we tried. I ofte

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread Larry McDavid
Folks, soap and detergent are not the same thing. Larry On 1/23/2014 11:22 PM, Glenn Little wrote: Tektronix used to clean their oscilloscopes in a soap and water bath in something like a dish washer. This was published in Tek Scope V4 #4 July 1972. I can send the pdf if interested. Glenn WB4

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread Glenn Little
Tektronix used to clean their oscilloscopes in a soap and water bath in something like a dish washer. This was published in Tek Scope V4 #4 July 1972. I can send the pdf if interested. Glenn WB4UIV At 10:13 PM 1/23/2014, you wrote: Joe Been a while. Sounds like a reasonable approach with the s

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread Hal Murray
> Also, I seem to recall a command that can be sent by SatStat to change from > GPS time to UTC time but I can't find it in my files. Is there such a > command or am I hallucinating? My notes for the Z3801A say: :diag:gps:utc 1 http://www.realhamradio.com/GPS_User_Notes.htm (undocumented)

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread Hal Murray
> The main PCB is very dirty and has the appearance that it has been in a > humid and dusty environment. I am suspicious that there are some 'leakage' > issues related to this dirt and would like to wash the board. What would > the group recommend for cleaning the board? Google for >PCB cleanin

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread Larry McDavid
I recommend against using tap water on any electronics. Use RO or distilled water; that won't leave behind minerals when it evaporates. Most IPA is only 70%; the balance is water. For flux removal, use 99% or anhydrous IPA, available at most industrial hardware stores. And, I surely would not

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread paul swed
Joe Been a while. Sounds like a reasonable approach with the soap and water. The key is not to force water into the inductors. I take soapy water and a tooth brush it works wonders. Then dry in an oven at about 100 degrees just to drive off the moisture. Very gentle. I guess the other point is to g

[time-nuts] Z3816A Control and Cleaning

2014-01-23 Thread J. L. Trantham
I recently acquired a Z3816A as a 'spare' and it does not work reliably. The ALARM LED sometimes comes on and sometimes doesn't. Sometimes it tracks and locks appropriately and other times it goes into HOLDOVER. The main PCB is very dirty and has the appearance that it has been in a humid and dus