Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2014-01-16 Thread Bill Reed
Paul It weighs 30 lbs. Pictures are on face book or I can email with an address. Bill -Original Message- From: paul swed Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:20 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. Bill Interesting

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2014-01-15 Thread Bill Reed
: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:02 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. You might be interested to know this was discussed in a paper by Jim Andrews (founder of Picosecond Pulse Laboratories): http://www.nist.gov/calibrations/upload/im

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2014-01-15 Thread paul swed
. Thanks, Bill Reed -Original Message- From: Bill Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:53 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. Hi, Since you guys are interested in fast pule generators, I have one you may

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2014-01-14 Thread Mark Kahrs
-Original Message- From: Bill Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:53 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. Hi, Since you guys are interested in fast pule generators, I have one you may be interested in. I got

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2014-01-13 Thread Bill Reed
Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:53 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. Hi, Since you guys are interested in fast pule generators, I have one you may be interested in. I got it in govt. auction about 25 years ago

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2014-01-07 Thread Bill Reed
under Impulse. Bill Reed256 586-3446 -Original Message- From: ct1dmk Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 7:36 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. Thank you all for your comments on this subject. Happy new year

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-29 Thread ct1dmk
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Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-27 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 02:16:26 + ct1dmk ct1...@gmail.com wrote: Since the amplitude and timing parameters are to be controlled (pulse timing come from an FPGA) I really need a solution using that trivial switching element fet or bipolar (and can't really do a more exotic scheme if I cant

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-27 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:30:00 +0100 Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: When you have the pulse you can use some standard RF amplifier circuit that drivers your transformer. Setting the amplitude should be easy too. I just reread your first mail and realized that this amplifier might be your

[time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread ct1dmk
Hello, I'm willing to generate a pulse (of some few hundred volts) by discharging a capacitor into a pulse transformer I'm solely interested is the active edge (call it either rise or fall depending on the wiring of the output of the transformer). The target is 4ns, while ideas seemed to be

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/26/13 8:07 AM, ct1dmk wrote: Hello, I'm willing to generate a pulse (of some few hundred volts) by discharging a capacitor into a pulse transformer I'm solely interested is the active edge (call it either rise or fall depending on the wiring of the output of the transformer). ns

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Marek Peca
The target is 4ns, while ideas seemed to be clear at some point, now I'm having doubts if better to use a MOSFET or a bipolar transistor as the switch element. Experiments with MOSFETs presented me some difficulties charging the gate capacitance having some trouble to achieve something in the

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:07:49 + ct1dmk ct1...@gmail.com wrote: The target is 4ns, while ideas seemed to be clear at some point, now I'm having doubts if better to use a MOSFET or a bipolar transistor as the switch element. Experiments with MOSFETs presented me some difficulties charging

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you go the Krytron route you probably will need some fairly fancy transformers as well…. Bob On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 12/26/13 8:07 AM, ct1dmk wrote: Hello, I'm willing to generate a pulse (of some few hundred volts) by discharging a

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread David C. Partridge
time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time. Hello, I'm willing to generate a pulse (of some few hundred volts) by discharging a capacitor into a pulse transformer I'm solely interested is the active edge (call it either rise or fall depending on the wiring

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 26 December 2013 16:07, ct1dmk ct1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm willing to generate a pulse (of some few hundred volts) by discharging a capacitor into a pulse transformer There are probably more modern approaches, but a thryatron is one possibility. Shame I put on in the dump a few

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread J. Forster
Can you say more about your application? What does your load look like? What pulse shape? There are well-known solutiuons for most problems. As Jim said, a lot depends on the energy you need per pulse. What works for a few mJ will not work for MJ BTW, SCRs probably switch a lot faster than

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Al Wolfe
Years ago I had a cousin who ran a civilian calibration lab. For calibrating scopes, etc, for rise time he used a mercury wetted relay which he claimed had nearly instant rise time and no bounce. Seems that he used a resistive divider and the mercury relay shunted a portion of the divider. With

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread J. Forster
There are very fast pulsers, some in NIM, that use a charged coax line and Hg relay to calibrate Pulse Height analyzers. The line length sets the pulse length; the charging voltage, the pulse height. -John Years ago I had a cousin who ran a civilian calibration lab. For

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread cfo
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:07:49 +, ct1dmk wrote: The target is 4ns, while ideas seemed to be clear at some point, now I'm having doubts if better to use a MOSFET or a bipolar transistor as the switch element. Experiments with MOSFETs presented me some difficulties charging the gate

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 26.12.2013 17:07, schrieb ct1dmk: p.s. ( I switch a capacitor to GND with a transistor (fet or bipolar). that capacitor has a charging resistor to 48V, transformer has a 9:1 voltage ratio. Pulse average power is quite low a few watt only. At the primary side some 20A of peak current for

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 19:38:08 + (UTC) cfo xne...@luna.dyndns.dk wrote: Have a look here Jim Williams on eevblog https://tinyurl.com/nhyvtc3 I advice to be cautious with EEVblog. Dave Jones has a lot of half knowledge and presents that like he knew exactly what he is talking about. His

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread ct1dmk
Many thanks to all for the nice tips. I may narrow down by saying a few more specs as suggested. The pulse would see a somehow unknown load but for a start I was suggested to have my source with 50ohm impedance so worst case would be a short circuit and therefore the pulse would be a current

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread J. Forster
Are only the amplitude and rep rate variable, or do you vary the width too? -John = Many thanks to all for the nice tips. I may narrow down by saying a few more specs as suggested. The pulse would see a somehow unknown load but for a start I was suggested to have my source

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Unless you want run for 1 second, that rules out a Krytron. Length of operation also impacts some of the other implementations. Bob On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:16 PM, ct1dmk ct1...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks to all for the nice tips. I may narrow down by saying a few more specs as

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread bownes
There are some good alternatives to krytrons. Just don't expect to be able to afford or export them. ;) On Dec 26, 2013, at 21:26, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Unless you want run for 1 second, that rules out a Krytron. Length of operation also impacts some of the other