Re: [time-nuts] modern electronics education/jobs (was:

Am Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:14:57 -0800 schrieb "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" : > > > On 11/12/2015 1:01 PM, William Schrempp wrote: > > > > has failed. I hear old machinists complaining about new machinists > > who can't drill a hole if the drill-press isn't > >

Re: [time-nuts] modern electronics education/jobs (was:

I went to Collins soldering school in the late 1960's. I also learned to tie the special Collins-knot for wrapping wires into neat cable bundles for airplanes, and still remember how to do both. I also built a 6-digit clock using TTL chips and nixie tubes in the early 1970's. Looked great and

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A mentor of mine did airplane wiring during WW II. They initially used cable lacing that was likely similar to your Collins method. What they found was a machine gun bullet that penetrated the airframe caused more damage due to the laced cable bundles. At some point the changed to just laying

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And don't wipe your soldering iron on your wash-and-wear fatigues as we used to do with the cotton ones. Al, k9si And I agree, don't solder in the nude or while wearing shorts, and don't walk barefoot in your workshop. ___ time-nuts mailing

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Hi Ok, I believe I first heard this “the kids don’t know nothing” story back in the early to mid 1960’s. Pretty much the same comments. Kids out of school never saw a soldering iron ever. All they know is theory, nothing practical. If only it was like the “good old days”. Back then we put the

[time-nuts] modern electronics education/jobs (was:

When I was in high school (early 1970's) I designed and built my own alarm clock out of TTL... (none of that sticking the guts of a commercial alarm clock in a pencil case that get kids arrested today). Also built my first computer by interfacing a TV Typewriter to a calculator chip. I was

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Hi guys, Your mostly-lurking EE (and, recently, also physics) undergraduate student here. You guys make me feel nostalgic for my young age of almost-legal-to-drink-in-the-US! I wish I can reply to all of you one by one but I'd rather not clog the mailing list with more off-topic discussion.

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When I got to a fancy school where they build satellites, I thought for sure my soldering iron skills would be useful for doing all the fancy stuff. But no! The satellites were built by a team of highly skilled ladies who looked completely down on the amateurish skills of us wannabes. And I

[time-nuts] modern electronics education/jobs (was:

Interesting discussion! How much is this the familiar spectacle of old coots (I am one of them) harrumphing about the younger generation and how things are now going to hell? And how much is it a well-justified lament and elegy over a true golden age and how its important and honorable skills are

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On 11/12/2015 1:01 PM, William Schrempp wrote: has failed. I hear old machinists complaining about new machinists who can't drill a hole if the drill-press isn't computer-controlled. And in my work, nurse education, I see students who can't be bothered to learn how to take a manual

[time-nuts] modern electronics education/jobs (was: Downsizing dilemma, HP 3335A)

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 23:26:19 + Rob Sherwood. wrote: > One wonders how EE grads today can actually get a job and be productive > with so little hands-on experience. Nobody expect a graduate to have hands-on experience in electronics. If you enter a company to do EE work in an

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Hi Indeed there is a bit of a shift in focus that has gone on. Look at a “kid” in the 1960’s and the same today: In the 60’s stuff like radios were the tech target of choice. Today it’s servers and game computers. No less passion, no less craziness. A different target. Today a *lot* of