Re: [time-nuts] time transfer over wifi

2017-01-15 Thread Scott Stobbe
Pretty much every wifi transceiver is adc sampled so the frames are "timestamped", but the adc sample time may not get pushed up. The rtt/tof for the large umbrella of localization applications, I would imagine will be impented even farther back in the rx chain. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:42 AM j

Re: [time-nuts] time transfer over wifi

2017-01-15 Thread jimlux
On 1/15/17 8:26 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ok, that’s a pretty good paper. At least it shows data and digs into the details. It also would lead one to believe that a “Time Nuts” grade sync system might be a hackable sort of thing …… hmmm…..Given how highly integrated these WiFi chip sets have becom

Re: [time-nuts] time transfer over wifi

2017-01-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, that’s a pretty good paper. At least it shows data and digs into the details. It also would lead one to believe that a “Time Nuts” grade sync system might be a hackable sort of thing …… hmmm…..Given how highly integrated these WiFi chip sets have become, that probably is a fantasy. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] time transfer over wifi

2017-01-15 Thread Scott Stobbe
Here is a ti app note with timestamping hardware wl8 but ordinary ap's with no special protocol just timestamping the beacon frame. http://www.ti.com/lit/an/swaa162a/swaa162a.pdf On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:06 AM jimlux wrote: > Returning to the OP > > "A TimeSync certification program will appe

[time-nuts] time transfer over wifi

2017-01-15 Thread jimlux
Returning to the OP "A TimeSync certification program will appear later this year, but semiconductor firms will have to create new Wi-Fi chips including the feature." so this "new thing" will be hardware of some TBD form. https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-timesync But more interest