Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-09 Thread Art Sepin
bo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:54 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...@megapathdsl.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover petervince1...@gmail.com said: > Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-09 Thread paul swed
The gps rcvr does not have a batter but will indeed support an external battery. I attached 2 AA batteries in a external easily replaceable holder and ran the 2 wires to the receiver 10 pin plug. (At least I think it was 10) I change the batteries every 2 years not so much for voltage as concern fo

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-09 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > The bigger problem for NTP is when the leap second correction process is > thrown off by the “time warp”. When leap seconds get fixed in mid-August > rather than the end of June … not a good thing. Is that still a problem? If so, do you have any details. I don't kn

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/09/2016 01:17 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi, On 09/08/2016 11:53 PM, Hal Murray wrote: petervince1...@gmail.com said: Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-over problems now - I didn't think it was 2048 weeks since GP

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Magnus Danielson > wrote: > > Hi, > > On 09/08/2016 11:53 PM, Hal Murray wrote: >> >> petervince1...@gmail.com said: >>> Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-over problems now - I >>> didn't think it was 2048 weeks since GPS "zero-hour" until

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 09/08/2016 11:53 PM, Hal Murray wrote: petervince1...@gmail.com said: Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-over problems now - I didn't think it was 2048 weeks since GPS "zero-hour" until late on the 6th of April 2019? It's probably 1024 weeks since a date was built in

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread Hal Murray
hol...@hotmail.com said: > Happy until the next power glitch... the setting does not seem to persist > between boots. There may also be other conditions that causes it to forget > your date. I just power cycled mine. It came back correct without setting the date. I've assumed there is a tin

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread Peter Vince
That makes sense - thanks guys! Peter On 8 September 2016 at 22:53, Hal Murray wrote: > > petervince1...@gmail.com said: > > Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-over problems now - > I > > didn't think it was 2048 weeks since GPS "zero-hour" until late on the > 6th > > of

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread Hal Murray
petervince1...@gmail.com said: > Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-over problems now - I > didn't think it was 2048 weeks since GPS "zero-hour" until late on the 6th > of April 2019? It's probably 1024 weeks since a date was built into the firmware. It's like the year 2000 pr

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi After the first batch of GPS devices rolled over, the manufacturers came up with a “fix” for the problem. If the date came out to a number *before* the firmware was issued, it was corrected forward in time. This only works over a single span of GPS dates. Depending on when the firmware you

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread Peter Vince
Can I just ask why the Z3801As are having week roll-over problems now - I didn't think it was 2048 weeks since GPS "zero-hour" until late on the 6th of April 2019? Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread paul swed
on 1PPS or 10 MHz outputs. > > /tvb > > - Original Message - > From: "paul swed" > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread Tom Van Baak
ay be mishandled by some GPS receivers, but they have no effect on 1PPS or 10 MHz outputs. /tvb - Original Message - From: "paul swed" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A g

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-08 Thread paul swed
Mark, >From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time at all? Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency do you care? Thanks Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims wrote: > Happy until the next power glitch... the setting

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-06 Thread Hal Murray
I had one that screwed up. I power cycled and set the date. It's happy now. I'm not sure of the exact recipe to tell it the right date. After feeding it a date of roughly today, the status screen jumped to Jan 2007. After it found a few satellites and such, it jumped to Sep 2016. -- The

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
That would be sunday midnight, GPS time, as GPS time-gears have GPS week shift between saturday and sunday. This naturally makes Monday extra monday as the system that fail do it during sunday. Cheers, Magnus On 09/05/2016 06:29 AM, Mark Sims wrote: I did a little math on the dates and it loo

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-05 Thread Hal Murray
hol...@hotmail.com said: > I did a little math on the dates and it looks like the rollover happened in > the last couple of days... Thanks for the heads up. Mine started on Aug 17th /var/log/ntp/clockstats.20160817:57617 2.033 127.127.26.1 T21997010102300103 8 64 0 That's from ntpd's cl

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The rollover is in the GPS module firmware. If you dig into it, they didn't quite update the firmware once every 3 months, but almost that often. Each manufacturer latched onto various versions as they sailed by. None of them had a validation process that could keep up with 4 releases a year

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

2016-09-05 Thread Ben Hall
On 9/4/2016 10:48 PM, Mark Sims wrote: Sometime (I didn't have it connected) in the last couple of weeks my Z3801A went into gps week rollover. If you have a Z3801A that had been working properly you might want to check yours. Different firmware versions roll over at different times. My Z380