[time-nuts] DMTD Question

2010-01-25 Thread EWKehren
Allow me to add some comments to this subject. Five month ago I set out to make a DMTD that would be $ 200 max and be such that any one can build it with readily available parts. The unit also includes five counters yielding a resolution of 1 E-15. Using five counters not only gives Allan Va

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Question

2010-01-25 Thread EWKehren
I am not familiar with FWIW 100. Tell me more. ThanksBert Kehren In a message dated 1/25/2010 8:22:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, david.partri...@dsl.pipex.com writes: FWIW 100 boards will likely cost not a great deal more (say $5-20 depending on board size than ten. Dave -Origi

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Question

2010-01-25 Thread EWKehren
Bob, the mixer/Filter op amp schematic is a direct copy of the NBS unit with late model op amps, comparator and an opto coupler in stead of the transformer. Isolation amps are actually MINI CIRCUITS the next version will be op amps. I will ask Richard to release the counter schematic. Since

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Question

2010-01-25 Thread EWKehren
Going from 10 boards to 100 will reduce board cost by about 10%. Depending of the final version the qty. 10 cost will be either $ 29 or 36.That is for mixer and counter board. Take out $9 if you will not use the counter. Bert In a message dated 1/25/2010 8:44:29 A.M. Eastern Standard

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Question

2010-01-25 Thread EWKehren
Before any body gets upset, I said before I used the wrong price calculator. The present mixer/counter takes up 4.3 by 5.3 inches, can be separated into two boards and in 100 qty would be $ 9.60 with silk screen and solder mask. Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/25/2010 12:10:43 P.M. Ea

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 5030 Comments ?

2010-01-28 Thread ewkehren
Depends on what your definition of major coin is. Is the Tube good? What is the condition of the oscillator? Bert Kehren -Original Message- From: Richard W. Solomon To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:31 pm Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 5030 Comments ? I saw an FTS 5030

[time-nuts] Austron 1150

2010-01-31 Thread EWKehren
Has any one done testing on the Austron 1150 oscillator module, specifically Allan Variance. Thank you Bert KehrenMiami ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Fw: Rb Oscillator - rather fundamental question

2010-02-23 Thread EWKehren
The HP 5062C is not a "Primary Standard", and that is why it is called a "Reference" because it uses a different transition of Cesium 133 with the frequency of 9192.631,774,3 MHz which does not meet the definition of a second and resulted in a relative short product life even though modified

Re: [time-nuts] 5061a now look at wrong freq A1 fault

2010-02-27 Thread EWKehren
Hi, C field will not get you on frequency with what you read right now, are you sure you are on the right peak? Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts a

Re: [time-nuts] 5061a now look at wrong freq A1 fault

2010-02-27 Thread EWKehren
Hi, let me start out with a disclaimer, I have sold several HP 5061A through a friend on ebay including the two recent HP 5062C's, the reason I do not do it direct is, he does it full time and he has the ability to get them packed professional. We have had no complaints all where tested and

[time-nuts] Comstron FS2000

2010-03-25 Thread EWKehren
I recently got hold of a Comstron FS2000 in the HP 7 form factor (most likely part of a custom job) but I remember some one commenting on the unit a while back. Unit is marked not functional, but would like to know more about it before I decide to do something with it, like tearing it apa

Re: [time-nuts] Making a HP 10811 better

2010-03-28 Thread EWKehren
Good morning I have a more fundamental question. Having three 10811-5071 all with Allan Variance from 1 to 100 Hz well below 1 E-12 one as low as 6 E-13 why would I want to mess with them at all? Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/28/2010 8:32:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, li...@rtty.us wr

Re: [time-nuts] Making a HP 10811 better

2010-03-29 Thread EWKehren
I would not feel comfortable tearing into the unit. Controlling its environment and power to it yes. I did that with a 10811 and a 10544 years ago by drilling a 20 foot hole in my Dallas backyard lowering the units in it with support electronics in place and sealing the shaft with individual

Re: [time-nuts] Making a HP 10811 better

2010-03-29 Thread EWKehren
I did retrieve it many times that is why I had all those sand bags with # strings and that time the cost of an oscillator was much higher and I tried putting the bags in and out several times before the oscillators went down there including leak test for moisture penetration. Bert In a me

Re: [time-nuts] Making a HP 10811 better

2010-03-29 Thread EWKehren
I am still looking for them this was eighteen years ago and I was not in to it and used it as a poor man's frequency standard. I only joined time nuts last year, have learned a lot and am just now putting in place equipment to measure. Still waiting for Corby to complete some tests to release

Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixer Terminations

2010-03-30 Thread EWKehren
Good morning Brian. What do you use as an OFF SET oscillator? Thank you Bert Kehren Miami In a message dated 3/29/2010 11:31:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes: Your correct - your also keeping me up past my bedtime !- I got to be 9

Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread EWKehren
Is there a way you can post it on time-nuts? Thank you Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/30/2010 9:10:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes: We'll the "A"s are the package with the BNC connector. The "B"s are for OEM equipment, they had 6 pins and a smaller pla

Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread EWKehren
Would you mind sending it direct to me at _ewkeh...@aol.com_ (mailto:ewkeh...@aol.com) as an attachment? You know we are in the test phase of a Dual Mixer and we are also running tests with the 10514 A and B along with the SYPD-1. The next board will accept the footprint of the 10514 B. B

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread EWKehren
Thank you Karesz. I will contact you direct and we can look at what needs to be done. Nothing Fancy. Bert In a message dated 5/11/2010 10:59:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, szeke...@gmail.com writes: Hi Bert, I can help you in PCAD schema drowing(i.e. as xxx.pdf output too)_have a litl

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread EWKehren
ws there is no NIH here, please share how you do it for $ 10, I always like to learn, and I have not been a member that long. Is there a link to a specific design? Thanks Bert In a message dated 5/11/2010 1:47:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, warrensjmail-...@yahoo.com writes: For the R

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread EWKehren
Allow me to apologize to start this again. Bert In a message dated 5/11/2010 7:25:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, warrensjmail-...@yahoo.com writes: (My apologies to all, this is a game Bruce and I play every time I bring up my simple tester.) Bruce wrote: >"So you now actually integra

Re: [time-nuts] Help wanted for buying manual on ebay with a usa address

2010-05-18 Thread EWKehren
I know John and I can take care of it contact me direct.Bert In a message dated 5/18/2010 7:32:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, electronicsandbo...@yahoo.com writes: I want to buy a service manual of the Datron 1081 on ebay, it em=390062405476 . The seller wont sell it to me. Is there so

Re: [time-nuts] Mu Metal

2010-05-28 Thread EWKehren
Who is Electr. Goldmine. How do I contact them. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/27/2010 6:15:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lstosk...@cox.net writes: For anyone wanting to add LF EM shielding to a project, Electronic Goldmine has a weekend special of UltraPerm at $5 for an 8X11 inch

Re: [time-nuts] Mu Metal

2010-05-28 Thread EWKehren
Thank you. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/28/2010 7:35:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com writes: - Original Message From: "ewkeh...@aol.com" To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 6:21:02 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Mu Metal Who is Electr.

Re: [time-nuts] Mu Metal

2010-05-28 Thread ewkehren
Thank you. Place order for four sheets Bert Kehren -Original Message- From: Stanley Reynolds To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 7:43 am Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Mu Metal http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16

Re: [time-nuts] Mu Metal

2010-05-28 Thread EWKehren
Whish you would have told me I could have ordered some extra and shipped them to you in priority flat rate envelope. Maybe some one else will order some, double postage does not make sense. Flat Rate Priority is $14.00 Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/28/2010 3:30:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight T

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A

2010-06-11 Thread EWKehren
I have not seen any plots on the 260 or E1938A on this site, I have only been on for a year, how ever I have a "few" 10811s" that Corby Dawson ran for me all below 1 E-12 one as low as 4 E -13 in the 1 to 100 sec. range. My problem is that Corby's file size is 900K and I have not found a way

Re: [time-nuts] Odd FTS 4060 Behavior

2010-06-12 Thread EWKehren
If it is always stable at 5x500.32 and has the lock light on than it has to be in the PLL. Bert Kehren In a message dated 6/12/2010 4:36:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rfn...@arcor.de writes: John, it's been a while since I digged deeper into it, but I remember having had problems

Re: [time-nuts] Odd FTS 4060 Behavior

2010-06-13 Thread EWKehren
Adrian I have also a FTS 1200 that is 2 Hz off at 5 MHz and can not be tuned to 5 MHz, have not dug into it yet. But first I would check the tuning range of your OCXO depending as to which one it is the tuning voltage should go past 5 Volt. If you see peaks on the current with the Osc. abov

Re: [time-nuts] Odd FTS 4060 Behavior

2010-06-13 Thread ewkehren
Adrian, maybe I missed something which oscillator does your unit have? Bert -Original Message- From: Adrian To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 6:08 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Odd FTS 4060 Behavior John, yep! The OCXO out of the

Re: [time-nuts] Odd FTS 4060 Behavior

2010-06-14 Thread EWKehren
Adrian, you did actually broke it down to the inside oven level. Is there any thing to look out for. I have a FTS 1200 that has a problem 2 Hz off but I have been reluctant to open it up. Any advice? Thanks Bert In a message dated 6/14/2010 6:02:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rfn...@a

Re: [time-nuts] Odd FTS 4060 Behavior

2010-06-14 Thread EWKehren
Thank you Adrian I did print out the instructions and one quiet day I will go for it. Thanks again Bert In a message dated 6/14/2010 7:17:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rfn...@arcor.de writes: Bert, I was surprised how easy oven disassembly was. Remove the 4 (8?) screws that hold the co

Re: [time-nuts] Clearing the data in Z38XX software

2010-06-24 Thread EWKehren
What is time-nuts recommendation for a good maybe bets GPS receiver with most accurate 1 PPS output? Thanks Bert Kehren Miami In a message dated 6/24/2010 10:00:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rbenw...@verizon.net writes: Ulrich, Thanks for the info, I didn't think it was a bug, I just was

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-26 Thread EWKehren
Attilia What you want is basically a Shera Board. That design has been around for quite some time and has served me very well. I have a total of six running including two controlling Rubidium. There are in my opinion a couple of problems: not every 4066 works on the design the 18 bit D/A is v

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-27 Thread EWKehren
Stanley the faster counter also has the jitter, no change, as long as it is not tied to the input frequency. The 24 MHz is not unique, the 100 MHz is same technology just four times faster and thus gives me smaller steps on the D/A and since I use it on Rub. the full range of the 18 bit cove

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-27 Thread EWKehren
Going from 24 to 100 MHz only gives you smaller steps (resolution) every thing else stays the same. If the he saw 2 to 3 nsec should be more like 8, going to 100 MHz will improve it by a factor of 4. In a redesign of the total system I would have two sample sizes maybe stay with 30 or go to 5

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-27 Thread EWKehren
Stanley I am not an expert but it is not only the jitter it is the fact that since the two sources are not linked the independent drift of the 100 MHz causes a distribution of the count. Again even with the same resolution the count error will be four X and the subsequent correction will be t

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-27 Thread EWKehren
Stanley Let me try one more time after that I give up maybe some one else can try. If the time between the GPS signal and the reference drifts by 100 nsec. the counter in the Shera 24 MHz board will detect it and based on that make the decision to change the D/A to compensate for it at a rate

Re: [time-nuts] Best OCXOs, phasenoise wise.

2010-06-28 Thread EWKehren
I do not think I can answer that question the way you present it. It depends to a large degree on what you want to use it for. If you want to multiply to microwave frequency there are 100 MHz units out there with excellent low phase noise in the $ 400 to $1400 price range, if it is Allan Var

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Hi, just a clarification, I did write 4066 it is a 4046 that I replaced. Take a look at the MCP 4822 dual 12 bit D/A In the data sheet they have an example using one for coarse, the other for fine steps, I realize that the transition is not perfect but maybe code can compensate for the tran

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Not being able to write code and not understanding what is required it is easy for me to suggest a fix. In the case of a good Rub. the annual aging rate is 1 E-10 which would mean the lower 12 bits would cover one month. During transition the PIC could modify the time constant and at the same

Re: [time-nuts] hp10811-60111 on ebay

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Hi The problem with the 10811 is the wide distribution. You do not know what you get. I am in the fortunate position that eight out of ten 10811 are way below 1 E-12 between 1 and 100 seconds one even out to 1000 seconds. As a matter of fact some of the plain 10811's are better than the 10811

Re: [time-nuts] hp10811-60111 on ebay

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Exactly, and I think that goes for most Osc. That you and I can afford. Bert In a message dated 6/29/2010 8:18:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Hi, So it goes without saying that you really don't know what you have unless you can test it in some way. It's OK look

Re: [time-nuts] hp10811-60111 on ebay

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Corby did it using his NBS Dual Mixer set up, the one I am now in the process to duplicate with the D/M using a five channel counter. As soon as the test results from the three testers are in a final mod will be done and than a $ 200 D/M with its own counter will be available. Bert In a

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Hi for many 16 bits will do and one other alternative is do a design that will also work with the AD 1861. I know it is hard to get but in the last year I found a sizable volume on ebay, convinced them to lower their price, bought some my self and posted it on time-nuts. With a group effort I

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Hi just bought four AD 1861 on ebay with shipping was $11 each. Will see what I get, but they are out there and 18 bit will cover in my opinion most applications Bert In a message dated 6/29/2010 12:21:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, li...@rtty.us writes: Hi Summing a pair of DAC's and

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-29 Thread ewkehren
Hi again. Any one interested should hold off for a day buying. I have contacted the seller asked how many he has and what a quantity price would be. To much interest and the price will go up. I think the market for audio equipment replacement is shrinking and there will be more reasonable offe

Re: [time-nuts] yet another GPSDO design, or so

2010-06-29 Thread EWKehren
Hi again This seller has 95 AD1861 in stock. Is there a reason why they would not work for all applications. No I do not get a cut. 95 would justify to do a new design but I am convinced there will be plenty more. Bert In a message dated 6/29/2010 1:57:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ewke

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II

2010-07-01 Thread EWKehren
Lets see what Richard says. I have just gone through that with my D/M which is in its second test phase and I did ship boards oversees. May do that one time. Bert In a message dated 7/1/2010 9:13:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, j.bastemei...@tudelft.nl writes: Dear Richard, and other Tim

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II PCB group buy

2010-07-01 Thread EWKehren
Stanly I have shipped in the last couple of month boards to NZ and Germany. No problem, but you have to make sure for Europe no lead, is an option with Expr. PCB, may want to include a copy of the invoice that clearly shows no lead. An old cut up padded envelop in a regular envelop with cust

[time-nuts] GPSDO article

2010-07-01 Thread EWKehren
There is an interesting article describing the Quartzlock E8000 series of GPSDO's in the June 2010 Microwave Journal. It goes into details as to method used. Worth reading. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, g

Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!

2010-07-08 Thread EWKehren
You do not need a pico amp meter all you need is a digital multi meter that has a 10 M ohm input resistance. Bert Kehren In a message dated 7/7/2010 9:23:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, paulsw...@gmail.com writes: Completely agree congrats and thanks for the update. I may be getting back i

Re: [time-nuts] Any clock disturbances during the July 11 solar eclipse?

2010-07-13 Thread EWKehren
Ulrich not having a 3805 can you please explain the scale. Thank you Bert Kehren In a message dated 7/13/2010 6:12:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, df...@ulrich-bangert.de writes: Antonio, attached is a recording of my Z3805's EFC along July 11. Times are in UTC. Best regards Ulrich >

Re: [time-nuts] Any clock disturbances during the July 11 solareclipse?

2010-07-13 Thread EWKehren
Ulrich, thank you for the info. I think that 2 E-10 per dayis the best argument for any Rubidium. Bert In a message dated 7/13/2010 8:05:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, df...@ulrich-bangert.de writes: Bert, lacking a 3805 manual my guess is that the 3805 EFC scale may be considered the s

Re: [time-nuts] Chances of 5061 and 5062 still having life in them?

2010-07-13 Thread EWKehren
Hi I noticed a HP 5061A in Australia with a patek-philippe clock movement on ebay. The clock will be worth some thing, even if the tube is bad! May compensate for the risk you take. Bert Kehren In a message dated 7/13/2010 12:19:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, li...@rtty.us writes: Hi It

Re: [time-nuts] Any clock disturbances during the July 11solareclipse?

2010-07-13 Thread EWKehren
Thanks Ulrich 2 E -10 seems high and a straight line on a double oven is what I would expect, looking at a month or two may tell more. Also what is the change in ambient temperature? With Rubidiums in the less than $100 range I think it is the best bang for a buck. I am still waiting for th

Re: [time-nuts] PIC-TIC boards

2010-07-14 Thread EWKehren
Hi For the ones that are not able to get DIP I have in the past installed a SOIC on a repair by using wires I saved from resistors that I had to cut and soldered them into the holes, formed them, put the SOIC in place and subsequently connected to the IC. Since it is only one it can be done i

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-26 Thread EWKehren
Hi, ten years ago not having a super counter I copied the input circuit of the Austron 2110 that using an XOR gate mixes 5 MHz with 500 Hz getting 5.0005 MHz. It is devided down to 1.0001 Mhz which in turn is mixed in 74 HC 74 D F/F giving 100 Hz, that most counters are able to count at hig

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-26 Thread EWKehren
Hi, Bob since has explained how the 1.0001 MHz are generated. My Austron uses a Xtal filter. If you want a scan of the circuit contact me direst. The resulting 100 Hz out of the D F/F results in a high resolution representation. 1 Hz is equal to 1E 6. If you now count the 100Hz with a counte

Re: [time-nuts] Fury - Rubidium

2010-07-28 Thread EWKehren
Hi I know I am repeating my self but reading Brian's experience with a FRS and the Shera controller, here I go again. Not having any luck contacting Brooks Shera, I did fool the controller with hardware changes and have very good results controlling a FRK-H. Comparing it with a Cesium, it is

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-28 Thread EWKehren
What could you help with? Bert In a message dated 7/28/2010 3:05:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wpxs...@gmail.com writes: Bert, I for one, would be interested in that. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to ht

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-28 Thread EWKehren
Yes, you are absolutely right and I have tried to get Richard to do it. Bert In a message dated 7/28/2010 4:47:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p...@phk.freebsd.dk writes: In message <4c5092fa.2030...@xtra.co.nz>, Bruce Griffiths writes: >Instead of copying the Shera controller albeit with

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-28 Thread EWKehren
One more comment $ 40 would cover every thing including PC board, May go up to 50 depending what D/A you use. Bert In a message dated 7/28/2010 4:47:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p...@phk.freebsd.dk writes: In message <4c5092fa.2030...@xtra.co.nz>, Bruce Griffiths writes: >Instead of

Re: [time-nuts] Fury - Rubidium

2010-07-28 Thread EWKehren
Nigel I do not think so. Early on I did try a Tbolt and did run a comparison with my Cesium, maybe I did something wrong, but to me it looked like they where changing the OCXO frequency to correct timing. I got rid of it and instead modified my Shera for Rubidium. Any comments out there fr

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-28 Thread EWKehren
I assume that some one will donate their time end effort like I am presently doing on the Dual Mixer I have spend in excess of $1000 on the project and untold hours and do not expect any payback. I thought that is what time-nuts is all about. Bert Kehren In a message dated 7/28/2010 6:06

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-29 Thread EWKehren
Hi I think it would be nice to have a show of hands as to how many are locking a Rb to GPS and what they use. Bert Kehren In a message dated 7/29/2010 4:00:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p...@phk.freebsd.dk writes: In message <60eb5e7c69594f49b830463dc322e...@athlon>, "Ulrich Bangert"

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-29 Thread EWKehren
Arnold what do you use? Bert Kehren In a message dated 7/29/2010 7:02:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, arnold.ti...@gmx.de writes: I do, and I am also interested on other improvements! Regards, Arnold Am 29.07.2010 12:49, schrieb ewkeh...@aol.com: > Hi > I think it would be nice to hav

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-29 Thread EWKehren
Arnold how are you controlling the Rb with the Tbolt? Bert In a message dated 7/29/2010 11:10:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, arnold.ti...@gmx.de writes: Bert, I'm using at the moment a thunderbolt (with spare for testpurposes using ext. other oscillators), a nice PRS10, a FRK-HLN-1A (5MH

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-29 Thread EWKehren
Arnold Have you actually done it with the PRS10 and what was the result? Bert In a message dated 7/29/2010 1:52:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, arnold.ti...@gmx.de writes: No problem for the PRS10 - there is an external pps input. For the FRK-RbO I don't have a practical solution yet, beca

Re: [time-nuts] Updated Shera controller

2010-07-29 Thread EWKehren
Thank you Brooke I have only been with this group for a year so I am not aware of all past dialog. What has been the result driving the PRS10 with an external source and was it a GPS or a Tbolt? I am not trying to be cute but if there is an alternative with test data I would like to buy one

[time-nuts] HP 105

2010-07-31 Thread EWKehren
A couple of month ago I was contacted concerning a HP 105. Do to a computer problem I lost all info. Please contact me again. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf

Re: [time-nuts] PTTI 2012, part 2

2012-12-04 Thread EWKehren
Paul Frankly I do not think I will live long enough to see a time nut build a fountain Rb. Over the four years I have watched many smoke and mirror projects with nothing coming out of is. In German we have a saying: paper is patient. We should walk before we run. Many members did buy a FE 568

Re: [time-nuts] PTTI 2012, part 2

2012-12-04 Thread EWKehren
In a message dated 12/4/2012 6:10:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, docdai...@gmail.com writes: I will build one right away.. but I didnt see your request. My problem is surface mount components (the multipin or no leads)... I am not confident in that. but I would certainly try. I am not

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-05 Thread EWKehren
Chris There is a low cost solution and I have the input circuit perfect for GPS on a $1 gate array I have boards and am presently using Shera original version. Would like to buy his version 402NE but have not been able to get a response from him. Have repeatedly asked for help on this list fo

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread EWKehren
How about quit talking and build something and show us some results! Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/6/2012 2:09:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@nap-us.com writes: Bob, Did Atmel (AVR) kill your dog or something? They have some pretty powerful MCU's. Are you flatly stating that none o

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread EWKehren
Paul I agree. That is my main frustration, lot of talk no results. The good part of time nuts is that I have made some very good contacts that share my interest of actually building some things and results are great. Remember the Loran simulator? Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/6/2012 1

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work please hold off, 4 channel pic...

2012-12-09 Thread EWKehren
We have a choice of two dual mixers, my copy of the original NBS with minor changes and Bill Riley's unit. Comparison tests are ongoing to pick the best. If Bill's shows better results I plan on laying one out using leaded components. 2 channel and 4 channel counters are completed and are bei

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD work please hold off, 4 channel pic...

2012-12-11 Thread EWKehren
Rex, let me check status and I will get back with you by Thursday. I am presently finalizing a detailed outline of the total package. Bert In a message dated 12/10/2012 7:23:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, r...@sonic.net writes: Bert, I have been waiting for more details to become availab

Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Beam Current question

2012-12-11 Thread EWKehren
As Corby said oven control Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/11/2012 2:47:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, p...@petelancashire.com writes: Thanks This weekend I'll stick a microphone inside a piece of tubing and go "looking". The singing only occurs when the unit is in LOOP OPEN or OPER m

Re: [time-nuts] Synergy SSR-6TR

2012-12-14 Thread EWKehren
Maybe some one with good Synergy connections can convince them that an overseas time-nut can buy and pay but use an US time-nut for shipping that in turn will forward it. I understand the cost involved for a Synergy because of the paperwork, but I ship regularly oversees with USPS as some of

[time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-19 Thread EWKehren
Brooks Shera has been a major contributor with his GPSDO. Before Tbolts where affordable his QST article for the first time opened the door for many amateurs to precision frequency at an affordable price. Over the years I build many units. For a year I have tried to buy his latest version

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-19 Thread EWKehren
Some how time nuts combined two lines it is Karen Stoll46 Crazy Rabbit Rd Santa Fee, NM 87508 In a message dated 12/19/2012 3:55:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ewkeh...@aol.com writes: Brooks Shera has been a major contributor with his GPSDO. Before Tbolts where affordable

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread EWKehren
I will contact her and see mybe she may also need help to dispose of hardware and we can arrange a sale. Bert In a message dated 12/21/2012 9:15:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, paulsw...@gmail.com writes: Bert A thought has crossed my mind here. His wife can not access his computer. If its

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread EWKehren
I have send an email and will find out what help she would accept, but there is time when a snail mail is very powerful, and I again encourage all of you to take the time to write a snail mail note. Maybe he can still recognize it, but putting my self in Karen's place it will lighten her load

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread EWKehren
John I send my posting to Mrs. Stoll for approval prior to posting. Lets try not to start the usual arguments. Brooks deserves better. Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/21/2012 4:28:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, j...@febo.com writes: And folks, please respect Brooks' privacy -- remembe

Re: [time-nuts] 2.5 Ghz 12 digit counter project

2012-12-28 Thread ewkehren
Lets call it what it is   waste of time and money Bert Kehren Sent from Samsung tabletBob Camp wrote:Hi As far as I can see, you would do *much* better with a surplus HP counter (sub $200 or even sub $100) and some sort of pre-scaler. Bob On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:51 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone ever put rubidium in an HP 70000 series mainframe?

2012-12-29 Thread ewkehren
I do feed a Rb in to all my istruments including my 7 spectrum analser. I had two choices 301 or create 100 Mhz. There blank modulrs available but make sure you get one with power module, power comming from the mainframe is if I recall 48 KHz. Bert Kehren Sent from Samsung tabletDavid Ki

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-03 Thread EWKehren
Ulrich you beat me to it, we have been using lately the ICS 512 and 570 for some of our projects. If symmetry is not required 80 MHz and a 74 AC 90 will do, if symmetry is a must the only low cost way I know is 160 MHz and a $ 2 MAX3000A gate array. We actually did a symmetrical divide by 3

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-04 Thread EWKehren
How about getting back to basics. Is it a one off, if production how many and what are the specification requirements? Otherwise on this list it can go on for a year. Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/4/2013 6:11:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wlfuq...@uky.edu writes: At 07:51 PM 1/4/2013

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO testing

2013-01-20 Thread EWKehren
I do not have a LPRO nor a schematic but all Efratom units I have played with have identical loops. They also use the 1 uF capacitor for sweeping. Adding an other larger capacitor in parallel and the sweep slows down and you can observe 127 Hz behavior. Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/20

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD

2013-02-06 Thread EWKehren
The delay is mainly do to the fact that the promise to do the drawings did not materialize. The counters are done and tests on variations of the D/M's are ongoing since the noise floor is not the counter but the D/M. Bill Riley's boards are out there and it would be nice to get some feedback

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD

2013-02-07 Thread ewkehren
You can buy today the Bill Riley board and there are few boards of a change with larger SMD also today available. Once we release a final S M D version any one that wants to buy only a board that ia an option, the same will also be available in through hole. Bert Sent from Samsung tabletJero

Re: [time-nuts] Newbie question about thunderbolts

2013-02-27 Thread EWKehren
I did get one bad one leak or pin hole aging so much that it would have run out of tuning range in a month Bert Kehren In a message dated 2/27/2013 7:24:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jmi...@pop.net writes: Sounds like a bad OCXO. The crystal frequency jumps slightly, and the disciplini

Re: [time-nuts] Tube/valve mounted xtals....

2013-03-07 Thread EWKehren
Have one of those at 100 KHz. Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/7/2013 4:39:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: http://s1338.beta.photobucket.com/user/EB4APL/media /CAM00431R_zps07fdcbf4.jpg.html ___ time-nuts mailin

Re: [time-nuts] frequency reference for portable operation

2013-03-10 Thread EWKehren
Having built a few portable frequency sources my recommendation based on your application and what is reasonably available today would be a FE 5680A in combination with a 100 MHz clean up XO. We have very good results with a slightly modified what I call the Dorsten PLL-VCXO by W-H-Rech. I c

[time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-23 Thread EWKehren
Brooks Shera passed away last Saturday. There will be an obituary published tomorrow in the Santa Fe New Mexican. It should also be available online. As I have mentioned in the past I credit him with making available to time nuts, radio amateurs and other hobbyists a method to obtain precise

[time-nuts] Brooks Shera Obituary

2013-03-24 Thread EWKehren
I encourage every time nut to read Brooks attached obituary. Very impressive For those that want to send a note, again Karen Stoll 46 Crazy Rabbit Rd. Santa Fe, NM 87508 Bert Kehren _http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lamonitor/obituary.aspx?n=e-brooks-shera&p id=163780430#fbLoggedOut_ (ht

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread EWKehren
Brooks GPSDO may be 15 years old but is still perfect for today's applications. If you look at tvb's Tbolt plot or Ulrich's plots with and without sawtooth correction for a day or two the limit is GPS. The basic unit has a resolution of 1.73 E-13 in mode 7. Brooks uses a 40 bit filter. I hav

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread EWKehren
Bruce, would you mind being more specific and offer a solution. Thanks Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/25/2013 7:09:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz writes: The lack of synchronisers when crossing clock domains is a design flaw that should be corrected. Bruce

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread EWKehren
As to the latest code Brooks did not release compiled or ASM code. Prior codes where released with an agreement. In due time his wife Karen Stoll will make a decision that will satisfy time nuts. Stay tuned. Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/25/2013 6:13:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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