Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread paul swed
Jerry you are right. See what it does on the original oscillator and match it. With respect to advancing you can't go to crazy as the unit will stutter. I want today I can advance the clocks I have at about 15 sec for 1 minute. Maybe faster. Anarduino will be very fine for what you are doing. On

Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread djl
I recall using a clock like that. I drove the coil with a 5v cmos type D flipflop. The coil is hooked to q and ~q with a couple of resistors. That way you get the reversal of voltage with little fuss. Don On 2020-01-02 16:32, Jerry Hancock wrote: I’ll have to go read about the Lord Vetinari

Re: [time-nuts] Bob Roehrig K9EUI SK

2020-01-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
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Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread Jerry Hancock
I’ll have to go read about the Lord Vetinari clock. He is one of my favorite book characters. Thanks for all the tips. I might have an old quartz clock around here to test. I assume I can just measure the pulse while it is running and generate the same with the 1PPS output. I’ll have to

Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread paul swed
I have also solved the same problem I have 4 Seth Thomas quartz clocks with the red 24 numbers in the display driven by a single driver with independent advance and hold for each clock. (Needed for multiple time zones) Generally reasonably quite. As mentioned they must be driven at a alternating

Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread xaos
Jerry, The Chinese NTP server that I've been discussing here lately has outputs for 1PPS, 1PPM and 1PPH. The plain vanilla NTP server (no 10MHz.) goes for 150-200. George, N2FGX On 1/2/2020 13:21, Jerry Hancock wrote: Hello, I looked around but can’t find a wall clock that would take a

Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread Philip Gladstone
It depends on how much work you want to do. I have various clocks driven off 1PPS (or 2PPS) signals. The cheapest approach is to take almost any quartz clock with a second hand and drive the coil directly (you need to pulse with alternate polarities -- i.e. there are even and odd pulses). I was

[time-nuts] Bob Roehrig K9EUI SK

2020-01-02 Thread kc9ieq via time-nuts
Services for our fallen fellow time nut Bob Roehrig are this Saturday January 4, in Batavia, IL.  Bob was a member of this list, and many of you may remember him from articles and projects published in 73 Magazine (and others) such as 1994's "Using the World's Most Accurate Frequency Standard"

Re: [time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread Matthew D'Asaro
I don't know of one available commercially, but it would not be hard to modify a standard quartz clock to do this. The standard quartz mechanism uses a motor that advances the seconds hand one second each time a pulse is applied to it. The catch is that every other pulse has to be the opposite

[time-nuts] Wall Clock that takes 1PPS input

2020-01-02 Thread Jerry Hancock
Hello, I looked around but can’t find a wall clock that would take a 1PPS input signal to drive the minutes and seconds. I’ve made digital modules using a lot of different displays but would love to have a large, 14” or so with a second hand, wall clock that I can drive with 1PPS. The old

Re: [time-nuts] Microstepper

2020-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Many thanks for those references. Downloaded and stored for future reference and reading. Check out US4358741 and US4417352. Cheers, Magnus On 2020-01-02 18:10, Anders Wallin wrote: > fwiw, looks like the spectradynamics patent expired today: >

Re: [time-nuts] Microstepper

2020-01-02 Thread Anders Wallin
fwiw, looks like the spectradynamics patent expired today: https://patents.google.com/patent/US6278330B1/en afaik that design (more or less) is also described in https://doi.org/10.1109/FREQ.1998.717932 a variation is also https://doi.org/10.1109/EFTF.2012.6502322 (which might be sold by

Re: [time-nuts] PLL suggestions

2020-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Dan, I would use a pair of dividers to get them to the common frequency of 5 MHz, so divide by 2 and 25, then use a SR flip-flop and then feed it to an op-amp doing a PI-loop. Be sure to make it well damped, so a damping factor of 3 or more. The bandwidth of the loop should be relatively high.

Re: [time-nuts] PLL suggestions

2020-01-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi A low phase noise VCXO is going to be up in the vicinity of $20. An MCU that will do the loading stuff is in the << $1 range. BOM wise, the MCU is round off error. Code wise, the firmware is “high school project” level stuff. Bob > On Jan 2, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Dan Kemppainen wrote: > >

Re: [time-nuts] PLL suggestions

2020-01-02 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Hi All, Just to clarify, the PLL we're looking for only needs to do the 10 -> 125MHz. The 125 ->MHz 3.125GHz is in a separate device with it's own PLL. I have some, but not a lot of control over that. The goal here is to provide a good source for the 125Mhz, for not a lot of board space and