Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standards for different tau in Allen Dev measurement

2020-02-23 Thread Robert DiRosario via time-nuts
SDRs (Software Defined Radio) decimate / downsample. Look at SDR documentation. Google turns up: https://dspguru.com/dsp/faqs/multirate/decimation/ Robert On 02/21/2020 03:09 PM, Gary E. Miller via time-nuts wrote: Yo Magnus! On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 20:33:46 +0100 Magnus Danielson via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi Ok, but thats “high pass in the RF section”. You really do not have an audio high pass filter the way you would in a more typical DMTD. If it’s any comfort, I’m sitting here looking at a very different box. It also has “wobbles” as you get into parts in 10^-16. That might change a bit if t

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Jan-Derk Bakker via time-nuts
Dear Bob, The capacitors are 47n NP0/C0G types (Kemet C0805C473K3GAC7800), picked for low tempco (and low DF and other non-ideal behavior). I've not spotted any hysteresis artefacts in these in previous designs, but I haven't measured their performance in this circuit. Forgot to mention in the pr

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi What does the temperature coefficient of your “hardware HPF” filter caps look like? Are they a type that has significant hysteresis? Bob > On Feb 23, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Jan-Derk Bakker via time-nuts > wrote: > > Dear Attila, > > Thanks for the heads up. > > I am currently using a HPF bot

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Jan-Derk Bakker via time-nuts
Dear Attila, Thanks for the heads up. I am currently using a HPF both in hardware (capacitive coupling into the balun driving the ADC inputs) and in software before the ZCD. This should counteract the first-order effects of this offset, although second-order effects (converter nonlinearity et al)

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali via time-nuts
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:19:20 -0500 Bob kb8tq via time-nuts wrote: > Since most mixers also have DC offset issues, it is pretty common to high > pass filter > the signal before you try to hit a limiter. Yes, this can bring in other > issues, but the > net result is commonly a “win”. With a d

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi Since most mixers also have DC offset issues, it is pretty common to high pass filter the signal before you try to hit a limiter. Yes, this can bring in other issues, but the net result is commonly a “win”. Bob > On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Attila Kinali via time-nuts > wrote: > > G

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali via time-nuts
Good evening! I'm going through some old stuff... On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:29:19 +0100 Jan-Derk Bakker wrote: > This has yielded a combined "simple" signal > processing path of a differentiator, a double comb filter and the offset > estimator, which is getting very close in performance to the "i