Re: [time-nuts] Salvaged OCXO by ar electronique

2020-05-01 Thread Andreas Seltenreich
Bob kb8tq writes: > If you have not already spotted a Vref pin on the unit, your magic > 8V pin may be the Vref for the EFC. It also could be “factory use only / > do not connect “. Thanks - I think I did spot such a pin: there's 5.3V suspicuously close to the tuning input, and wiring a pot to i

[time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread jimlux
What with telework, I'm doing more timenuts-ey stuff at home, and the power supply conundrum has come up. There's a plethora of interesting widgets scattered across my bench requiring variously, 5V, 8V, 12V, and 15V. I've got a box full of various fixed voltage supplies, mostly linear, picke

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Peter Loron
If you are patient, you can find Sorensen/Xantrex/Ametek programmable power supplies on eBay for reasonable prices. Some of them are linear, some switching. High quality stuff. The XT series are linear bench supplies. -Pete > On May 1, 2020, at 11:51, jimlux wrote: > > What with telework, I'm

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Tim Shoppa
Jim, when it comes to "bench supplies" - knobs for voltage and meters - most of the commonly available Chinese bench supplies in the under 3A-range are linear with series regulator. This unit (HY1803D) is typical and has a transformer (relay-selected winding depending on the voltage setting) and a

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Spend some time on eBay looking for Power Designs bench supplies. They went out of business years ago so they are not a popular item. Thus the price is usually pretty reasonable. I have never seen one that was a switcher…. Bob > On May 1, 2020, at 2:51 PM, jimlux wrote: > > What with tele

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
I love my R&S NGT20, I have several of them. Reasonably clean, analog, uA741 technology, no switcher, knobs for everything. 3 independent, unconnected outputs: 2* 0-20V@1A for op amps etc 1*0-6V@5A for the digital stuff for example: < https://www.ebay.de/itm/Rohde-Schwarz-DC-Power-Supply-Str

[time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, Power Designs units are VERY good. Some (their precision models) are insanely good. They have a cult following and can be a bit pricey these days. There are lots of posts on eevblog.com about them. Dave did a video on one of the precision units. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You don’t have to get into the fancy versions to get a nice quiet supply. One of the guys at Frequency Electronics (I forget who …) turned me on to them back in the 1970’s. I have not seen any of them selling for the sort of prices some other supplies seem to command …. Maybe I just spend m

[time-nuts] FE-5680A - Newbie capacitor question

2020-05-01 Thread John Bievenour
I'm an amateur electronics hobbyist who's still a newbie (especially to SMD), so please forgive the basic question. I recently acquired a FE-5680A that was failing to lock on frequency (pin 3 never went low). It will power up, sweep up and down, and finally settle to fluctuate around 9.999

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A - Newbie capacitor question

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The only way to work out what you have is to find the data sheet on that part. It *should* translate between the manufacturer’s markings and the exact part number. That part number will tell you as much as can be known about the part. Some data sheets are a lot more complete than others.

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread jimlux
On 5/1/20 1:11 PM, Mark Sims wrote: Yes, Power Designs units are VERY good. Some (their precision models) are insanely good. They have a cult following and can be a bit pricey these days. There are lots of posts on eevblog.com about them. Dave did a video on one of the precision units. h

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread jimlux
On 5/1/20 12:07 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote: Jim, when it comes to "bench supplies" - knobs for voltage and meters - most of the commonly available Chinese bench supplies in the under 3A-range are linear with series regulator. This unit (HY1803D) is typical and has a transformer (relay-selected winding

[time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread mp...@clanbaker.org
Hello, time Nutters-- I have been phase locking the freq counters in my HP 6-GHz VNA, Tektronix spectrum analyzer and bench freq counter to the 10 MHz signal from a Trimble Thunderbolt via a 4-port distribution box and long coax cables to each of the instruments.  This works well but is a pain in

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Steve - Home
I’d give a “thumbs up” for the Acopian supplies, too. I have several and they get used regularly. I haven’t had one die on me yet (knocks on head) Steve WB0DBS > On May 1, 2020, at 6:23 PM, jimlux wrote: > > On 5/1/20 12:07 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote: >> Jim, when it comes to "bench supplies" - k

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread Richard Solomon
Where do you buy these ? Their web site was not too illuminating. Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ On Fri, May 1, 2020, 4:31 PM mp...@clanbaker.org wrote: > Hello, time Nutters-- > > I have been phase locking the freq counters in my HP 6-GHz VNA, Tektronix > spectrum analyzer and bench freq counter to the 10 M

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread jimlux
On 5/1/20 5:00 PM, Richard Solomon wrote: Where do you buy these ? Their web site was not too illuminating. digikey and mouser carry a lot of SiTime parts, including eval boards. Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ On Fri, May 1, 2020, 4:31 PM mp...@clanbaker.org wrote: Hello, time Nutters-- I have been

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A - Newbie capacitor question

2020-05-01 Thread John Bievenour
Okay, I think I'm beginning to get it. I reread some articles about ESR with fresh eyes and what you wrote makes sense. Since I won't be ordering many of them, it looks like a safer bet to purchase a 10%, 1.5 Ohm ESR capacitor (Kemet PN: T495B105K035ATE1K5, Mouser PN: 80-T495B105K35ATE1K5). I f

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread Richard Solomon
Been there, did a search on the part number and came up empty. They did have a "Request Samples" button so I filled out the form. Let's see what happens. 73, Dick, W1KSZ On Fri, May 1, 2020, 5:40 PM jimlux wrote: > On 5/1/20 5:00 PM, Richard Solomon wrote: > > Where do you buy these ? Their we

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If the idea is to run things standalone, a generic eBay OCXO would work better than these devices. The OCXO would be more stable. It also should be lower noise / better ADEV. If the idea is to lock these up to the TBolt, it’s not at all clear what benefit that would have. Bob > On May 1,

[time-nuts] FE-5680A - Newbie capacitor question

2020-05-01 Thread Mark Sims
If it's a filter cap on the output of an LDO voltage regulator (at 1 uF it is probably not) be aware that a lot of LDO regulators have problems with very low ESR caps. Check the LDO data sheet for acceptable values. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-n

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice

2020-05-01 Thread Wes
An update on this: I emailed both Jackson and Brandywine for prices on both the Desktop Fury, in Jackson's case, and the board versions from each of them. The good news is that they both were responsive.  The bad news is they are both out of my price range. Jackson by about 3 dB.  Brandywine

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Notfaded
Looking at the datasheet it doesn't look like you'd win any ADEV competitions with it but it's small and the DCTXCO version would be nice to use the I2C interface and it says frequency control resolution as low as 5 ppt. It has uses I can see. Bill On Fri, May 1, 2020, 5:50 PM Richard Solomon w

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice

2020-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I would guess that the vast majority of folks on the list and an even larger percentage doing the FMT are buying their GPSDO’s on eBay. Which ones they buy and how well the work is very much a “that depends sort of thing”. The crop of devices at low(er) prices changes every 3 to 5 years. Wh

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice

2020-05-01 Thread Wes
Hi Bob, According to the USPS tracking number I'll have a BG7TBL GPSDO on Monday :-) I really wanted to "Buy American" but a 10 dB price difference is worth taking the risk. Wes On 5/1/2020 7:29 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi I would guess that the vast majority of folks on the list and an even l

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice

2020-05-01 Thread Richard Solomon
Why not just get a Trimble T-Bolt ? Lots of them are still around. 73, Dick, W1KSZ On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:26 PM Wes wrote: > An update on this: > > I emailed both Jackson and Brandywine for prices on both the Desktop Fury, > in > Jackson's case, and the board versions from each of them. > > T

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Notfaded
Did you get a newer one with late 2019 at least on the front BG7TBL panel? The one I got doesn't have the frequency offset bug and works really well. It locks on multiple birds really quickly. For the money it's hard to beat. I've been comparing it to my Thunderbolt E. It obviously doesn't provi

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <73bfcf33-8b29-38a6-d5a7-9192375d4...@earthlink.net>, jimlux writes: >I suppose I can package a bunch of those up in a bigger box with banana >jacks or binding posts. Use power-pole connectors, they are cheap and *so* much better. I'm using a couple of fused West Mountain Ra

Re: [time-nuts] power supplies

2020-05-01 Thread ed breya
Power supplies are indeed mostly commodity items, but absolutely essential. I have a large collection of OEM open-frame units, in linear and SMPS, and a small collection of commercial bench supplies, and some home-made ones. You can of course get a bunch of bench units and set them up for ever