Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Paul, I only ask as you seem to track this thing the best here on time-nuts, as far as I have seen, such that it is your emails that keeps me best up to date with the progress. Cheers, Magnus On 2020-08-05 19:21, paul swed wrote: > Hi Magnus been a while since have emailed. > Its one site tha

Re: [time-nuts] another source of time...

2020-08-05 Thread jimlux
On 8/5/20 4:18 PM, Mark Haun wrote: I wonder if someone maintains a directory of ionosondes.  Seems like waste/duplication to have every interested party set up their own, instead of piggy-backing on what's already out there.  There's also the pollution factor---one certainly hears them often eno

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for information on Brightline oscillator

2020-08-05 Thread ed breya
One thing I've noticed in old mystery oscillators and other RF modules, is that they often use 3-terminal or other regulators inside. If you gradually increase the supply voltage, the current goes up rapidly, then levels off as sufficient overhead is reached. That gives some idea of where they

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for information on Brightline oscillator

2020-08-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi In that era, 12 and 24V are the two candidate supply voltages. Assuming there are no wires to the other pins, no need to supply power to them. What to do: Try 12V and see what happens. If you get a stable output at > +7 dbm and good ( = low ) harmonics. That’s the supply. If not, slowly in

[time-nuts] Looking for information on Brightline oscillator

2020-08-05 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts, OK, have one for the old timers out there. Does anyone have pinout or voltage input information on a Brightline oscillator? This company was founded by Charles S. Stone in Cedar Park, TX. His company was soon purchased by Frequency Electronics and he went to work for them. The

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
We seem to be going through another stage in our technological evolution right now as far as redundancy goes. To explain what I mean: A long time ago things were so unreliable that everyone knew that you needed two systems, even if one was the watch in your pocket and a compass and sextant for PN

Re: [time-nuts] another source of time...

2020-08-05 Thread Mark Haun
I wonder if someone maintains a directory of ionosondes.  Seems like waste/duplication to have every interested party set up their own, instead of piggy-backing on what's already out there.  There's also the pollution factor---one certainly hears them often enough while operating narrowband on shor

[time-nuts] another source of time...

2020-08-05 Thread jimlux
I was researching potential calibration sources for our orbiting receivers (where we need to line up GNSS signals with HF signals) and after looking at the usual suspects like WWV, we came across another one. Ionosondes - they're all over the place, and these days, they're fairly accurately ti

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread paul swed
Jim Thanks for the insights. Oh I am not selling it for emp. I am simply saying no would be general wants a rusty old steel tower as a career booster. I remember when LORAN C was shut down the president said he was saving $36M a year. Thats drop in the old bucket. I also remember the LORAN C antenn

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread jimlux
On 8/5/20 12:40 PM, Tom Knox wrote: Hi Paul and Magnus; Not to mention one space EMP would kill all the Sat systems, where a ground base system even if affected would be easy to access for repair. The vulnerability of GNSS systems to EMP attacks is not all that high - GPS is, after all, a DoD

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread Tom Knox
Hi Paul and Magnus; Not to mention one space EMP would kill all the Sat systems, where a ground base system even if affected would be easy to access for repair. Cheers; Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com "Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of Justice" Both MLK and Albert Einstein

[time-nuts] "The Penultimate HP5065 A15"

2020-08-05 Thread cdelect
Luciano, I agree entirely! I like the motto "do no harm"! When I try a mod such as replacing the dead op amp on the A9 board. I make before and after tests to make sure no degradation has occurred. Since this means parts in 10 -14th AD at 128 Seconds most don't have the capability. However a lot

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread paul swed
Hi Magnus been a while since have emailed. Its one site that was a test transmitter. Its in New Jersey, USA. The goal of the testing I believe is to establish the viability of an alternate PNT reference to GPS. Additionally the ability to communicate some level of message broadcast. This should be

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Do you know that they would do test with two actual transmitter sites? Cheers, Magnus On 2020-08-05 16:00, paul swed wrote: > Hello to fellow time nuts. > Warm up those old Austrons. eLORAN out of New Jersey has been on the air > intermittently prior to a test run next week. Due to the storm

[time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-05 Thread paul swed
Hello to fellow time nuts. Warm up those old Austrons. eLORAN out of New Jersey has been on the air intermittently prior to a test run next week. Due to the storm they have lost power and should have it back today or tomorrow. The intention will be on the air operation till the 20th. That's a long

Re: [time-nuts] "The Penultimate HP5065 A15"

2020-08-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:55 AM, tim...@timeok.it wrote: > > > I would like to share with you my thoughts on two important points that > concern a little all attempts to modify and upgrade the equipment. > > In general I am very reluctant to modify both the electrically and > mechanically

Re: [time-nuts] "The Penultimate HP5065 A15"

2020-08-05 Thread ew via time-nuts
10 years ago I started a project to try to improve on the 5065A by buying an Optical Unit in Europe and only use the temperature control boards. Temperature control with a fan and aging with a DAC based on 20 year experience with my FRK. Age, move and Macular hole in the left eye ended that pro

Re: [time-nuts] "The Penultimate HP5065 A15"

2020-08-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
tim...@timeok.it writes: > Another important point is that of the certainty of the results > of a change. I mean that most hobbyists who have a 5065A, including > me, do not have the opportunity to measure the proposed improvement > effects, first of all because they do not have a referen

Re: [time-nuts] "The Penultimate HP5065 A15"

2020-08-05 Thread timeok
I would like to share with you my thoughts on two important points that concern a little all attempts to modify and upgrade the equipment. In general I am very reluctant to modify both the electrically and mechanically, in this case, the HP5065A. Modifying, even completely a board, I agr