[time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A project update

2022-01-29 Thread ed breya
Tom Holmes wrote: "I am curious about one part of the warmup process. At around 7 minutes, the power jumps up radically, which you attribute to the outer oven kicking in. It has often been stated on this list that the outer oven was intended for use during really cold starts, which I would

[time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A project update

2022-01-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One would guess that they delay going “full power” so as not to hammer the main power supply quite so hard at start up. Bob > On Jan 29, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Tom Holmes wrote: > > HI Ed & Ed... > > Thanks for the plot. The dive towards zero just before the spike s > surprising; maybe a

[time-nuts] Re: electronics question or how not to fry my raspberry pi

2022-01-29 Thread glen english LIST
I endorse Dave's suggestion (below) . The resistive divider is simple but slows down the edge rate which may be undesirable especially if the input isnt a schmitt. The MOSFET solution is the most appropriate. take a look what is inside packaged translators... just that. On 29/01/2022 10:33

[time-nuts] Re: electronics question or how not to fry my raspberry pi

2022-01-29 Thread Andy Talbot
Those diodes are so robust that a PIC connected the wrong way to a 5V 1 Amp PSU was protected by all these diodes conducting in parallel and current limiting the PSU. The PIC appeared to have survived (although I chucked it anyway, just in case) Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at

[time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A project update

2022-01-29 Thread Tom Holmes
HI Ed & Ed... Thanks for the plot. The dive towards zero just before the spike s surprising; maybe a funky data point? Anyway, I'm not doubting that the observations are correct, just curious about the timing and source of that power spike. Like maybe the controller decided it wasn't heating

[time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A project update

2022-01-29 Thread Ed Palmer
On 2022-01-29 2:30 AM, "Tom Holmes" wrote: Ed... Very good data! I am curious about one part of the warmup process. At around 7 minutes, the power jumps up radically, which you attribute to the outer oven kicking in. It has often been stated on this list that the outer oven was intended for

[time-nuts] Re: electronics question or how not to fry my raspberry pi

2022-01-29 Thread Robert Atkinson via time-nuts
You can run the PicDiv on 3.3 V and connect the 5V signal to the PicDiv input via a series resistor between 1k and 10k. Put the resistor at the PicDiv end of the connection. The PIC has protection diodes on it's input These clamp the input to the supply. The series resisor limits the current.

[time-nuts] Re: electronics question or how not to fry my raspberry pi

2022-01-29 Thread Dave B via time-nuts
You can actually use a single small N channel MOSFET (2N7000 or similar) with it's Gate connected to the lower Vcc via, say, a 1k resistor.  (Not strictly needed, but with long leads, it helps prevent HF transient oscillation. Then use it's Source as the lower voltage data line, and it's

[time-nuts] Re: electronics question or how not to fry my raspberry pi

2022-01-29 Thread David Taylor via time-nuts
On 28/01/2022 19:41, folkert wrote: Hi, [] The RPI doesn't like 5v on its GPIO pins. So I wonder: - can I feed the picdiv 5v on its GPIO pin while giving it a 3.3v voltage so that it outputs 3.3v as well to the rpi pins? - or should I use a voltage divider? I was thinking of a 4.7k ohm and