[time-nuts] HP 58503A

2022-05-28 Thread K5jv via time-nuts
Does anyone have a dead 58503 (inop for whatever reason) with working option 001 display/keypad that they would like to sell or trade?  I need only the display board, or snap on display panel.  Of so, please contact me off line,  telephone would be best.  73 de Lon, K5JV 281-795-1335

[time-nuts] HP 58503A

2022-05-28 Thread K5jv via time-nuts
Does anyone have a dead (inop) HP58503 [4f748b4a-71bd-426d-a8f7-713b80407d03] ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-le...@lists.febo.com

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
Do you mean "even submultiples"? ie. even division ratios. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Sat, 28 May 2022 at 21:11, Matthias Welwarsky via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Only frequencies that are even multiples of the internal crystal frequency > (48MHz) are "clean".

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread Alex Pummer via time-nuts
Yes, we did, and learned, that the device -- the ublox6 --  forgets the the program very fast, thus we added one arduino, which loads the program into the ublox at every new turn on. By using low output frequency -- 10kHz -- the jitter is low, at higher output frequency the jitter is getting

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread Matthias Welwarsky via time-nuts
Hi Rich, I'm using a LEA-M8T in a GPSDO project. I've gathered a bit of experience with the M8 timing receivers over the past two or three years. Both timepulse outputs can be programmed to any frequency and duty cycle you like, 10kHz is certainly not a problem. However, some things to

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-28 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist via time-nuts
These types of devices have been around so long they can be found in labs wearing the hp badge. Their uselessness 40 years ago compelled me to invent the workarounds in the copper mountain ap note. Rick N6RK Keysight retiree, 2014. On 5/26/2022 12:51 PM, Brooke Clarke via time-nuts wrote: Hi

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-28 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist via time-nuts
This was already SOP for any knowledgeable RF engineer by the 1940's. Somewhere I have a copy of Dishal's paper. I worked for Zeta Labs in the 1970's and we sold lots of microwave filters that were tuned this way. We didn't even have VNA's at Zeta. We just used a directional detector (diode

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-28 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist via time-nuts
On 5/26/2022 10:24 AM, Lux, Jim wrote: https://www.mwrf.com/technologies/test-measurement/article/21849791/copper-mountain-technologies-make-accurate-impedance-measurements-using-a-vna describes the various approaches I don't know how long these methods have been in use, but I

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi There are a number of threads on the uBlox receivers. Quick summary: All of the outputs from the typical examples are run with a “drop a pulse / add a pulse” approach to steer them to the correct frequency. If you are after a “clean” output for some sort of gear (like a synthesizer) … not

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR via time-nuts
Rich, stand by. I've been doing a *lot* of testing with higher-speed pulserates on the u-blox F9T/M8T/M9N (as high as 20+ MHz) and will be ready to report some results in a week or two, I hope. There are some interesting findings. And that testing underlies a new TAPR project I'm working

[time-nuts] Ublox M6T -M8T

2022-05-28 Thread R Putz via time-nuts
Has anyone done anything with the Ublox GPS timing receivers? As it appears the Navman with the 10khz outputs seem to be drying up, I'm wondering about the Time Pulse 2 output being set to 10 Khz or 100 Khz. Thoughts anyone? Rich W9ENG ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] Re: Optimizing GPSDO for phase stability

2022-05-28 Thread Erik Kaashoek via time-nuts
Thanks Bob, It is indeed planned to give the user the option to have either frequency stability of phase stability and adapt the PLL parameters accordingly I still need to learn a lot before I can write the "couple dozen pages" Erik. On 28-5-2022 6:54, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi What is the