[time-nuts] Re: GPS failed

2022-07-11 Thread Carsten Andrich via time-nuts
The u-blox SAW filtering is great. We've carried out various RF measurements with +40 dBm EIRP at 2.53 and 3.75 GHz with some u-blox ANN-MB within <2m of the Tx antennas. While we haven't conducted in-depth comparisons with a superior ground-truth, my current conclusion is that the u-blox RTK p

[time-nuts] Re: Realtime comparing PPS of 3 GPS

2022-05-31 Thread Carsten Andrich via time-nuts
On 31.05.22 01:10, glen english LIST via time-nuts wrote: Be aware not to confuse the antenna ground plane  (the patch will always have its own plane because the top metalization must be fed against a plane or counterpoise -  and a ground plane behind the antenna. I can see the usefulness of t

[time-nuts] Re: Realtime comparing PPS of 3 GPS

2022-05-30 Thread Carsten Andrich via time-nuts
Hi Erik, have you tried running all receivers off the same antenna via a power splitter (make sure to dc block all but one receiver)? That should remove the uncertainty due to antenna differences (location, RF characteristics, etc.). Also, are you using ground planes for your puck antennas?

[time-nuts] Re: Simple simulation model for an OCXO?

2022-05-16 Thread Carsten Andrich
rg/fftw3_doc/One_002dDimensional-DFTs-of-Real-Data.html -- M.Sc. Carsten Andrich Technische Universität Ilmenau Fachgebiet Elektronische Messtechnik und Signalverarbeitung (EMS) Helmholtzplatz 2 98693 Ilmenau T +49 3677 69-4269 ___ time-nuts mailing

[time-nuts] Re: Simple simulation model for an OCXO?

2022-05-14 Thread Carsten Andrich
= { (N/2)^0.5 * \sigma * (N(0, 1) + 1j * N(0, 1)), k = 1 ... N/2 - 1 { conj(X[N-k]) , k = N/2 + 1 ... N - 1 Best regards, Carsten -- M.Sc. Carsten Andrich Technische Universität Ilmenau Fachgebiet Elektronische Messtechnik und Signalverarbeitung (EMS) Helmho

[time-nuts] Re: Simple simulation model for an OCXO?

2022-05-14 Thread Carsten Andrich
On 14.05.22 16:58, Matthias Welwarsky wrote: I went "window shopping" on Google and found something that would probably fit my needs here: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/sasp/Example_Synthesis_1_F_Noise.html Matlab code: Nx = 2^16; % number of samples to synthesize B = [0.049922035 -0.095993

[time-nuts] Re: Simple simulation model for an OCXO?

2022-05-13 Thread Carsten Andrich
On 11.05.22 08:15, Carsten Andrich wrote: Also, any reason to do this via forward and inverse FFT? AFAIK the Fourier transform of white noise is white noise, [...] I had the same question when I first saw this. Unfortunately I don't have a good answer, besides that forward + inverse en

[time-nuts] Re: Simple simulation model for an OCXO?

2022-05-10 Thread Carsten Andrich
On 10.05.22 10:37, Neville Michie wrote: The use of forward then reverse Fourier transforms is one of the most important achievements of the Fourier transform. When one data set is convolved with another data set, it appears impossible to undo the tangle. But if the data is transformed into the F

[time-nuts] Re: Simple simulation model for an OCXO?

2022-05-09 Thread Carsten Andrich
First, thanks to everyone who chimed in on this highly interesting topic. On 04.05.22 18:49, Attila Kinali wrote: FFT based systems take a white, normal distributed noise source, Fourier transform it, filter it in frequency domain and transform it back. Runtime is dominated by the FFT and thus O

[time-nuts] Re: What time difference to expect from two clocks using internal GPS receivers?

2022-05-01 Thread Carsten Andrich
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[time-nuts] Re: GPSDO Control loop autotuning

2022-04-21 Thread Carsten Andrich
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[time-nuts] Re: 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-20 Thread Carsten Andrich
Hi Markus, On 20.04.22 08:24, Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts wrote: Am 19.04.2022 um 18:51 schrieb Carsten Andrich: Thanks for the suggestion. I've had a quick look at the RCM. Unfortunately, its "1PPS synchronization counter resolution" is ±2.5ns, which is below what a ZED-

[time-nuts] Re: 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-19 Thread Carsten Andrich
Hi Markus, Jim, thank you for your responses! On 19.04.22 11:53, Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts wrote: I believe you will have a hard time finding a COTS solution that fits most of your requirements. You will likely have to split your signal chain into multiple devices: 1. UBlox ZED-F9T based

[time-nuts] 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-17 Thread Carsten Andrich
Fellow timing enthusiasts, for RF up-down-converters up to 40 GHz I require highly stable, synchronized reference signals for multiple, spatially distributed RF synthesizers like the TI LMX2595. Do any of you know COTS GNSSDOs that meet (at least some of) the following requirements?: * 10

[time-nuts] Re: Question about GPS 1PPS ADEV

2022-04-16 Thread Carsten Andrich
Hello Matthias, provided your OCXO is sufficiently stable, i.e., better stability than the 1PPS, I agree that you should see said "bulge". Judging from the DAC plot, the EFC voltage is being adjusted within the tau range in which you expect the NEO-M8T bulge (10~100 s), so I'd expect that to h

[time-nuts] Re: The STM32 GPSDO, a short presentation

2022-04-14 Thread Carsten Andrich
Hello Erik, could you elaborate on your setup? Which oscillator (OCXO?) are you using to drive the STM32's PLL? I'm currently toying around with a (presumarly?) similar configuration. An RCB-F9T's 1PPS fed into an STM32G4's 32-bit timer capture to reference the 1PPS to a local oscillator wit