[time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS

2021-03-11 Thread Peter Torry via time-nuts
Hello Paul, You will still need to power the clock by winding it up when required.  The pendulum does not drive the clock, it regulates how the power is allowed to escape from the driving force through a mechanism called the escapement. As far as regulation goes the traditional was is to

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS

2021-03-11 Thread vilgotch1
This has been a most interesting thread. One method of controlling a pendulum but allowing it to swing naturally that I am familiar with is to put a small unobtrusive magnet on the bottom of the bob and an inductor on the base of the clock at the centre of the swing. Depending on how you arrange

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Philip Gladstone
My feeling was that a fairly small battery could run the weight adjuster for a year or two. It has to power some type of RF receiver to pick up a locally broadcast time signal (probably on 2.4GHz). Given that it can characterize the local crystal, the actual 'on time' of the receiver would be

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread paul swed
Like you all, I have always thought it would be fun to mess with a pendulum clock. Since I have one already what stands in the way? Well my Wife might think very differently about a few screws and wires in that clock. At the other end of the spectrum is Bill S. beautiful clocks he has built. Not

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Hal Murray
jfitzger...@alum.wpi.edu said: > You guys have me thinking about another "non cheating" technique.I am now > imagining a small gear motor/screw arrangement that raises or lowers a mass > on the pendulum to trim out small variations in swing frequency. How are you planning to get power

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Philip Gladstone
I had a design for something like that which I could hang on the back of a pendulum and screw a weight up and down (actually I was going to move the whole device up and down). The problem was that it would impose significant air resistance and actually prevent the clock from running. I believe

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Gerald Swann
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Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Joseph B. Fitzgerald
You guys have me thinking about another "non cheating" technique.I am now imagining a small gear motor/screw arrangement that raises or lowers a mass on the pendulum to trim out small variations in swing frequency. -Joe Fitzgerald ___

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Philip Gladstone
I solved the rewind problem by putting an alarm on my phone for noon on Sundays. During the pandemic, I'm always home, so that works out too! On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 11:52 AM Dana Whitlow wrote: > Philip, > > You and I are definitely "in sync" regarding cheating to alter the pendulum >

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Dana Whitlow
Philip, You and I are definitely "in sync" regarding cheating to alter the pendulum motions! I had a very similar thought for effectively making the pendulum based system into sort of a VCO, except that instead of a metal plate, use a small Nd magnet polarized vertically, stealthily-attached to

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-10 Thread Philip Gladstone
I've been wanting to do this as well, but I feel that it is "cheating" to actively drive the pendulum. I want to have a passive approach to disciplining the clock so that the clock itself is keeping time. One approach that I have seen was to put a magnet at the bottom of the pendulum and then

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS

2021-03-06 Thread vilgotch1
-- From: Gerald Swann To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4) Eamonn and all, You mentioned you hope to get your grandfather

[time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS

2021-03-06 Thread Mark Sims
I also disciplined a friends grandfather clock. I used a small servo to nudge/impulse the pendulum. It used 24 impulses/minute. Worked rather well for a crude hack. No mods were done to the clock case/mechanics. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Grandfather clock sync'd to 1PPS (from time-nuts Digest, Vol 200, Issue 4)

2021-03-06 Thread Gerald Swann
Eamonn and all, You mentioned you hope to get your grandfather clock time synchronized to a 1PPS signal. That would be a very satisfying project, I can assure you. I did that with my own grandfather clock. My father built the clock quite a number of years ago from a kit, and used walnut