Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-23 Thread Joe Polastre
On 11/23/06, Michael Schippling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The block diagram shows UART/2, I2C/2, ADC/6, and GPIO/4. However the schematic shows the expansion connectors also have AVCC, Gnd, Reset, and an ExtInt which adds up to 18 contacts on 16 pins. So it appears that two of the GPIO's are mul

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-23 Thread Michael Schippling
The block diagram shows UART/2, I2C/2, ADC/6, and GPIO/4. However the schematic shows the expansion connectors also have AVCC, Gnd, Reset, and an ExtInt which adds up to 18 contacts on 16 pins. So it appears that two of the GPIO's are multiplexed in some un-specified way with two ADC's. Are you co

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-23 Thread Joe Polastre
ps...but with only 4 GPIO lines I'd never get my robot to agree... Again, not true. I count 12 GPIO lines available for use without having to both with the cumbersome 51-pin connector. -Joe ___ Tinyos-help mailing list Tinyos-help@Millennium.Berkeley

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-23 Thread Michael Schippling
> Perhaps you should have started with Tmote Sky motes instead. ;) > There's always next time... thanks MS ps...but with only 4 GPIO lines I'd never get my robot to agree... Joe Polastre wrote: I haven't used, or even seen, the tmotes. Maybe they are more economical, but I assume that they req

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-23 Thread Philip Levis
On Nov 22, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Chad Metcalf wrote: The Tmotes (or telosb from other companies) are the fastest and easiest way to start (IMHO). Each board is its own programmer. That's why they've got USB connectors. Each can be flashed to be a base station. Or you can write a base station that

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Joe Polastre
I haven't used, or even seen, the tmotes. Maybe they are more economical, but I assume that they require some kind of base- station as well. Nope, you are absolutely wrong. Tmote Sky has built in USB, so none of those silly programming boards are necessary as you can plug ANY Tmote Sky into a U

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Michael Schippling
huh...I guess I should look at the tmotes. Didn't know they had USB... But then I have to re-orient to MPS instead of ATMEGA, right? I could never learn emacs because vi is hardwired. But I skipped C++ and went straight to Java... MS Chad Metcalf wrote: The Tmotes (or telosb from other companie

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Chad Metcalf
The Tmotes (or telosb from other companies) are the fastest and easiest way to start (IMHO). Each board is its own programmer. That's why they've got USB connectors. Each can be flashed to be a base station. Or you can write a base station that forwards traffic over the USB and takes its own sens

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Michael Schippling
Well...given that I was wrong about the entry fee... $800 doesn't seem right for the intro-mica2 kit but if that's what they say, there you have it... Wait, I just figured out how to get the prices online and it doesn't make any sense...maybe someone from XBOW reads this stuff and can comment: The

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Michael Schippling
ohnevermind...I had an expense account when I got the first couple... MS Robert Szewczyk wrote: According to Xbow website, the starter kit is $795. Rob On 11/22/06, Michael Schippling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ditto on the TOSSIM thing...but it will certainly tell you if you have the sto

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Chad Metcalf
You'll be good to go with the Tmotes. Between the docs you can get from them and RTFM at www.tinyos.net you'll be fine. Chad On 11/22/06, Ted Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Inline... > Check on the Xbow starter kits too, I can't find the prices > but I think the mica2 one is in the $300 ra

RE: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Ted Carter
Inline...> Check on the Xbow starter kits too, I can't find the prices> but I think the mica2 one is in the $300 range:> http://xbow.com/Products/productsdetails.aspx?sid=67> I'm probably wrong about the price...Are starter kits worth the money? $800 is pretty steep for entry. If I purchase a

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Robert Szewczyk
According to Xbow website, the starter kit is $795. Rob On 11/22/06, Michael Schippling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ditto on the TOSSIM thing...but it will certainly tell you if you have the stomach for TOS programming...heh. Check on the Xbow starter kits too, I can't find the prices but I thi

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Michael Schippling
ditto on the TOSSIM thing...but it will certainly tell you if you have the stomach for TOS programming...heh. Check on the Xbow starter kits too, I can't find the prices but I think the mica2 one is in the $300 range: http://xbow.com/Products/productsdetails.aspx?sid=67 I'm probably wrong about t

Re: [Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Chad Metcalf
Sure you can start with TOSSIM, its cheap. But not terribly exciting to watch. For 260 bucks you can get 2 Tmote Sky's http://www.moteiv.com/xcart/product.php?productid=2. For another 100 bucks you can get sensors on your Tmotes. That's a little more exciting. Blinking lights are always nice. Bet

[Tinyos-help] Newbie: setting up devenv

2006-11-22 Thread Ted Carter
Apologize for the newbie spam.I'm just starting to get my feet wet with TinyOS. I've read the FAQ and the hardware page and I thought I'd solicit advice from the list before proceeding. My goal is to start experimenting (build/debug) with nesC and TinyOS. I'd like to get some physical hardwa