[tips] Freud iceberg quote: source

2006-05-25 Thread Donnelly, Michael
To my fellow tipsters still doggedly pursuing the source of the iceberg idea: Keep at it! We'll find the source yet. That Fechner attribution that we got earlier seemed so definite, so it should be easy to check. For my part, as I write this note I sit with a stack of volumes from Strachey's massi

[tips] Freud iceberg quote: source

2006-05-25 Thread Allen Esterson
On 24 May Stephen Black wrote re the passage on Fechner in Ernest Jones's biography on Freud [snip]: >What Jones said, in expanded form was this: >"He did not commit himself on the question of whether unconscious processes could be psychical, but of their importance otherwise he was convinced. "t

[tips] Freud iceberg quote: source

2006-05-24 Thread sblack
On 18 May 2006 at 16:55, Allen Esterson wrote: > I haven't been able to trace Freud's use of the "iceberg" analogy, > but, as Mike indicates, it originated with Gustave Fechner. According to > Ernest Jones in volume one of his biography of Freud, Fechner "likened > the mind to an iceberg which is

[tips] Freud iceberg quote: source

2006-05-18 Thread Mike Donnelly
I am looking for a source on the Freud iceberg quote. You know the one: "The mind is like an iceberg, it floats with one-seventh of its bulk above water." You see this everywhere, but rarely does a specific source accompany it. I am told that Myers most recent intro text claims the iceberg analog