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Subject: Re:[tips] anti-depressives in the news again
The article pointed to by Stephen is interesting and I believe it should be
said in as many places as possible that there is no clear evidence that
depressio
William Scott wrote:
> The article pointed to by Stephen is interesting and I believe it should be
> said in as many places as possible that there is no clear evidence that
> depression is caused by the malfunction of serotonin systems. However, I am
> perplexed by the suggestion in the article
Allen Esterson wrote:
> Another view on the current debate:
>
> http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/docs/Antideps27Feb08.pdf
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>
Note that the key lines here are anecdotal (and precisely mimic the
talking points that the drug companies themselves have emitted over the
past couple of weeks):
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The article pointed to by Stephen is interesting and I believe it should be
said in as many places as possible that there is no clear evidence that
depression is caused by the malfunction of serotonin systems. However, I am
perplexed by the suggestion in the article that evidence that SSRI's are
On 8 Mar 2008 at 5:36, Allen Esterson wrote:
> Another view on the current debate:
>
> http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/docs/Antideps27Feb08.pdf
And yet still another:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-03/fsu-smp030308.php#
Stephen
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Another view on the current debate:
http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/docs/Antideps27Feb08.pdf
Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org
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This was an issue in the past in a study where children with ADHD were used
as their own controls to evaluate a new medication, sometimes getting it and
sometimes having placebo. Mothers said they knew when their sons were
getting the medication and when they were getting the placebo. Since
At 9:51 AM -0600 3/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>3) There's one further problem here. Change scores for placebos don't
>show purely the power of the placebo. As some depression is short-term
>and goes away on its own as people find their own ways of dealing with
>their problems, placebo effects
Miguel Roig wrote:
> A study by Irving Kirsch and others on the efficacy of anti-depressants
> was recently discussed in TIPS. Those of you who were following that
> thread may be interested in reading an editorial in the most recent
> issue of BMJ in which the authors,Erick Turner and Robert R
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> A study by Irving Kirsch and others on the efficacy of
> anti-depressants was recently discussed in TIPS. Those of you who were
> following that thread may be interested in reading an editorial in the
> most recent issue of BMJ in which the authors, Erick Turner an
A study by Irving Kirsch and others on the efficacy of anti-depressants was
recently discussed in TIPS. Those of you who were following that thread may be
interested in reading an editorial in the most recent issue of BMJ in which the
authors, Erick Turner and Robert Rosenthal, state "In contras
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